Why do you want to know?I've read the AC on private carriage vs common carriage and holding out but what is an easy way to explain it maybe a few examples ? Thanks.
The AC discussing public vs private carriage is woefully ou of date. For one thing, there is a Part 135 certificate for private carriage.
I use to think so too. Then I started looking at references like:119.5(e): A person authorized to engage in noncommon or private carriage under part 125 or part 135 of this chapter, or both, shall be issued only one certificate authorizing such carriage, regardless of the kind of operation or the class or size of aircraft to be operated.If it is really private carriage, they don't need a 135.
I use to think so too. Then I started looking at references like:119.5(e): A person authorized to engage in noncommon or private carriage under part 125 or part 135 of this chapter, or both, shall be issued only one certificate authorizing such carriage, regardless of the kind of operation or the class or size of aircraft to be operated.
119.5(h) A person holding an Operating Certificate authorizing noncommon or private carriage operations shall not conduct any operations in common carriage.
FSIMS Scroll down to see a sample private carriage Part 135 certificate.
The references you are looking at? I'd love to be wrong on this.
I will stuck with my response based on 119.23
And cases like FAA v Gorman, involving the revocation of the pilot certificates of a guy who insisted he didn't need an operating certificate for private carriage.(b) Each person who conducts noncommon carriage (except as provided in § 91.501(b) of this chapter) or private carriage operations for compensation or hire with airplanes having a passenger-seat configuration of less than 20 seats, excluding each crewmember seat, and a payload capacity of less than 6,000 pounds shall—
(1) Comply with the certification and operations specifications requirements in subpart C of this part;
(2) Conduct those operations in accordance with the requirements of part 135 of this chapter, except for those requirements applicable only to commuter operations; and
(3) Be issued operations specifications in accordance with those requirements.
Exactly.You are not going to provide an aircraft and pilot services for a third party without a 135.
Didn't an examiner who used to write a column for one of the magazines get crossways with the Feds about this stuff?