Cirrus Vision Jet Uncontained Engine Failure, 6/2/26, Safe Landing

Kenny Phillips

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"N129KA departed from Greene County Rgnl Airport (Greensboro, GA) CPP, emergency landing into Athens/Ben Epps Airport (Athens, GA) AHN"
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Tarheelpilot said:
Stupid. Now he gets to buy an engine. /s

Kinda /s
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Well, all these aircraft are on programs from nose to tail so Williams and Cirrus will own this one. However, a chute pull may have totaled the airframe and a new one would be had...whenever one would become available. However, in that area of Ga, a chute pull could have possibly resulted in more pilotframe damage.
 
I know some insurance policies forgo the deductible if you pull the chute…

Good idea fairy, but I would think Cirrus would be tickled to have a chance to find out more definitively what happened here.
 
robin ardoin said:
Well, all these aircraft are on programs from nose to tail so Williams and Cirrus will own this one. However, a chute pull may have totaled the airframe and a new one would be had...whenever one would become available. However, in that area of Ga, a chute pull could have possibly resulted in more pilotframe damage.
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Depends on value. A lot of Cirrus SR22 are put back in the air after a chute pull. The SF50 G2 is still worth enough it likely would get fixed and put back in the air.

Tim
 
“Extensive annual may be required”
 
TAP Blue - never heard of it. For $250 an hour, they do all maintenance? Does this also include engine replacement at TBO?

Tangent: Flying a Vision jet - $250 / hour TAP Blue, $500 / hour for fuel. Add in misc., and you're at $1000 or so a flight hour?
 
WDD said:
TAP Blue - never heard of it. For $250 an hour, they do all maintenance? Does this also include engine replacement at TBO?

Tangent: Flying a Vision jet - $250 / hour TAP Blue, $500 / hour for fuel. Add in misc., and you're at $1000 or so a flight hour?
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Turbines are spendy. Yes, most programs include all MRO.
 
WDD said:
Tangent: Flying a Vision jet - $250 / hour TAP Blue, $500 / hour for fuel. Add in misc., and you're at $1000 or so a flight hour?
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Sounds plausible. I see numbers in the $1500/hr.

$250/hr TAP for operating a turbofan is not that expensive when you realize operating an O-360 costs $50-60/hr, excluding fuel.
 
AV8R_87 said:
$250/hr TAP for operating a turbofan is not that expensive when you realize operating an O-360 costs $50-60/hr, excluding fuel.
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That sounds pretty good considering that O360 is 2-3x hours more per mile in the air than the turbofan.
 
midwestpa24 said:
Yes, all Cirrus even the jets do. This pilot knew he had an airport made and decided to forego the parachute and land. Impressive, I've been curious how well the jet glides.
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Usually, they do pretty well. Since they're gofast things, they're pretty aerodynamically clean. Wikipedia says the glide ratio is 14.7 : 1.
 
flyingron said:
Usually, they do pretty well. Since they're gofast things, they're pretty aerodynamically clean. Wikipedia says the glide ratio is 14.7 : 1.
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That's impressive ... about double the venerable Skyhawk.
 
AV8R_87 said:
Sounds plausible. I see numbers in the $1500/hr.

$250/hr TAP for operating a turbofan is not that expensive when you realize operating an O-360 costs $50-60/hr, excluding fuel.
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Because I was bored, and also because I worked on the engine program, I checked out what a year of ownership for a HondaJet would run (sort of the next step up from the Cirrus):
For 200 hours / 100 cycles, with an engine program and an airframe program (so no separate MRO bills for either), you are over $137,000.
Plus fuel. Plus insurance. Plus training (assume owner flown). And a hangar. Plus the note, if you've not paid cash.
So over seven hundred bucks per hour to keep the thing in good nick, prior to feeding and housing it.
The folks that buy a timed-out CJ for under a million certainly aren't maintaining it, I think.
 
Kenny Phillips said:
Because I was bored, and also because I worked on the engine program, I checked out what a year of ownership for a HondaJet would run (sort of the next step up from the Cirrus):
For 200 hours / 100 cycles, with an engine program and an airframe program (so no separate MRO bills for either), you are over $137,000.
Plus fuel. Plus insurance. Plus training (assume owner flown). And a hangar. Plus the note, if you've not paid cash.
So over seven hundred bucks per hour to keep the thing in good nick, prior to feeding and housing it.
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Not sure how examining the cost of a honda jet or any other jet relates to the OP...............
Kenny Phillips said:
The folks that buy a timed-out CJ for under a million certainly aren't maintaining it, I think.
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How so? Again, how does this relate?
 
Doc Holliday said:
Not sure how examining the cost of a honda jet or any other jet relates to the OP...............


How so? Again, how does this relate?
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Doc, you've been around a lot, right? That should be all you need to know, if you read entire threads.
 
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