I posted this, "As I recall, the only thing that could have resolved the problem was the Attitude Indicator. Put the wings so many bar widths above the horizon and hold it there regardless of what the other instruments were saying," in a thread about auto pilots that led to the Air France accident. Didn't get any response and I want to know, so starting this thread about it in particular. Youse big iron guys, is this part of emergency training? When everything else goes nips up and starts lying to you, just hold an 'attitude.'