AOPA article just published

Discussion in 'Pilot Training' started by Maui Cirrus CFII, Jan 26, 2017.

  1. Maui Cirrus CFII

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    so.....how are AoA sales? :)
     
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    Congrats on the article.
     
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    Congrats on getting published. When I read you cover everything but the AOA indicator I got to thinking. How about they putting an inclinometer in the unit. They'd have to make it a little bigger but it would give a good picture of what the plane is doing right there in one spot. Ain't nuthin but a little marble in a glass tube, couldn't be to expensive.
     
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    How much did you have to bribe the AOPA prez to get that published?

    Just kidding, congrats on the sales pitch.
     
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    Congrats,sales should increase after the article.
     
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    A thread about an article about yourself about selling your product belongs in the Classifieds. Reported.
     
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    I could cover everything except the airspeed indicator and land just as safely.
    Putting her down with just the AoA isn't exactly parting the Red Sea.
     
  9. Checkout_my_Six

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    Ah....you should be able to hear enough and feel enough to tell.....once Jimmy Buffet starts singing you'll know to recover. :D
     
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    So AOPA now publishes advertorials without marking them?

    I half expected a "AoA indicators from the 80s! - What do they look like now??" photo montage at the end.
     
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    Yeah, I agree. Was just refuting the "one gauge" argument.
     
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    Congrats (?) Maui Wowie! Wheeeeee!

    pee wee.jpg
     
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    For the love of Gawd...please stop the blatant product spam here. We get it already. Not even considering your product based on you annoying "marketing" techniques alone.
     
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    So dude spams the boards with his product.... then mentions "So I was flying around with the AOPA president..." and now has an article hawking his product in AOPA's magazine.

    AOPA won't be getting my dues again. EAA will.
     
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    I could put it down with the entire panel covered. Very easily.

    Cessnas in particular find best glide fairly closely at low or idle power with flaps up and trim all the way nose up. Use throttle to make the aimpoint, as necessary. Pipers aren't terribly different.
     
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    AoA's are neat... I'll have one on my project plane, actually two...
     
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    Neat is one thing...necessary another. Especially when you say things like "the blue doughnut that indicates (on the KLR 10, and other models) maximum lift over drag, which also happens to yield the best glide distance" without properly qualifying it.
     
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    It's worth reading, no one forced me, and I willingly spent the time to do so. A reference to a an aviation article seems to fall short of a "commercial" to me, even if the author has an interest in the product. No harm done. . .
     
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    If Maui sent me a free AOA in the mail I'd **** in the box and return to sender. And yeah I won't be renewing my AOPA dues either. :rolleyes:
     
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    While the MC agrees with the points made that this is more of an Advertorial, it still remains an AOPA article that focuses on the AoA (and related instruction) as much or more than the sales aspect. Posting this article in the Classifieds would not make any sense. It is not uncommon for aircraft magazines to publish advertorials, and even a type club I belong to (with membership dues) has published them in the past.

    Another reminder - if you don't like these sorts of posts, ignoring them will send them to the bottom of the thread list faster. Remember that when you post, you put the thread back at the top.
     
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    So what is your beef with AOPA?
     
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    I'd rather eat an actual blue donut, to keep my blood sugar up so I could pay better attention to the ASI.
     
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    Well be careful, if you eat too many blue donuts you'll gain weight; therefore the aircraft's weight will be affected and you'll have to painstakingly calculate the new stall speeds and the best glide speed, by hand using long division, or do it the easy way and install an AoA indicator and fly the blue donut, resisting the temptation to eat it or else you'll end up back where you started.
     
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  24. Maui Cirrus CFII

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    You guys are too funny.
     
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    Excellent point. I'll get one of those small donuts coated with powdered sugar, and spray paint it blue. Keep those calories in check. :)
     
  26. Greg Bockelman

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    Yeah, except ASI isn't always representative of angle of attack.
     
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    ...and quite possibly not flying as far as you could if you knew that the blue donut wouldn't give you the most distance.
     
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    Posts like this make you look worse than the person you are attacking. IMHO.
     
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    Agree, Mari.

    OP, congrats on the article.
     
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    True... But just barely. ;)
     
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    IMHO I found that creative and entertaining. I doubt he was serious since all pilots know the troublesome logistics of using a box as a toilet.
     
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    I have gotten to the point of hating myself when I click on this guys threads.

    Thing is: I might put one of these in my plane one day but it won't be from him. Don't know why, just is.
     
  33. Maui Cirrus CFII

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    That's a shame. My prices are the lowest anywhere. I am donating the first $5000 in profits to the COPA air safety foundation too.
     
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    Lol. You serious? I bet half the replies on this thread are from people that are annoyed by the daily AOA pitch. Maui is getting increasingly creative with how to insert sales pitches without needing to be in the classifieds. I get creative with a tongue in cheek reply (rather than the generic "this is getting old", "belongs in the classifieds..." ) and I'm now "attacking" him?

    My post was intended to be full of sarcasm to express a sentiment not unique to this thread. Sorry you missed that.
     
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    Yes.

    The post was reported as a personal attack (by someone other than Maui). After some debate, the MC decided that it didn't quite meet our criteria for personal attack, but it was borderline. We didn't see any humor in it at all, and it is the kind of tone we want to avoid around here.
     
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    We allowed this thread to stay where it was but if you continue mentioning the sale of your product in the thread, it will be moved to Classifieds and you'll get another Classifieds warning.
     
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    How about just saying nothing?, or not reading his posts. all the 'getting old' posts do is bring his post to the top of the recents anyway. And, I don't know about everyone else but I could've gone all day without reading about what you'd do in a box.
     
  38. MichiPilot

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    I'd reiterate the question. What was the financial transaction to get the article published. And, was the post here hyping up AOPA part of the deal?
     
  39. Maui Cirrus CFII

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    Zero to get it published. The editor is a huge fan of AoA.
     
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    Just a box of blue doughnuts?