Ha. Are you bringing back 50 Question Fridays again? Of course it doesnt mention IAs. Why should it? It doesnt mention APs either.Doesn't say anything must be done by the IA
Ha. Are you bringing back 50 Question Fridays again? Of course it doesnt mention IAs. Why should it? It doesnt mention APs either.Doesn't say anything must be done by the IA
Is this a trick question? I'll take door #1, yes.He shall thoroughly clean the aircraft and aircraft engine. Does that say we can must do it ?
Appendix D to Part 43—Scope and Detail of Items (as Applicable to the Particular Aircraft) To Be Included in Annual and 100-Hour Inspections
(a) Each person performing an annual or 100-hour inspection shall,
Doesn't say anything must be done by the IA
Weren't we discussing ANNUALS? why talk about A&Ps, or did you change the topic again.Ha. Are you bringing back 50 Question Fridays again? Of course it doesnt mention IAs. Why should it? It doesnt mention APs either.![]()
The FAA may disagree.Is this a trick question? I'll take door #1, yes.
Reference?The FAA may disagree.
Yes "we" are. Was only following your lead from your post #40. Just trying to keep things clear.Weren't we discussing ANNUALS?
your next FAA question.. call them.Reference?
Then answer it.Was only following your lead from your post #40.
The annual inspection on my Cherokee takes me about 8 hours. It covers everything on the approved inspection checklist, plus a couple of extras.I spend three long days doing the condition inspection (annual) on my home built. That's assuming i don't have to fix something. The airplane is 3 years old.
People who have never wrenched on a plane have no real concept of how long it takes. Or the painstaking way things need to be done.
15 hours to do an annual is got to be the bare minimum for an experienced mechanic. No way I could do it in that time on my very simple home built.
I did. Post 42.Then answer it.
I asked first. Don't need to call them. Glad to see you back to you're old self...your next FAA question.. call them.
I like this topic. I think ripping apart a plane every year seems like overdoing it. Maybe its time for BasicMech (should I trademark that).
Let me change out more stuff like starters, belts, alternators and more (if not all) avionics. Why can't I do my own interior work or painting? I can find a way to weight it afterwards. Why can't I remove and re-install the front seats? Can't I be taught by a simple online course on how to do the 100hr seat rail inspection? Maybe the engine should have a yearly (or 100hr) compression test and prop inspection by someone official. For example, teach me (through ground courses) on how to do as much inspection as possible so that I can sign it off. Make me have to document it with pictures (we all have cell phones). Obviously I would still want motor, prop and rigging changes done by someone in the know.
We have a IA around that does the same thing for 20 minutes and $300. Annual sign off, does about 6 or 7 in a day, good money for little work sounds good. Of all the things in aviation that will kill you 20 minute Annual inspection would be at the bottom of the list.The annual inspection on my Cherokee takes me about 8 hours. It covers everything on the approved inspection checklist, plus a couple of extras.
The 20 minutes spent by the IA is included in the 8 hours.
They already allow it .... for exp![]()
We have a IA around that does the same thing for 20 minutes and $300. Annual sign off, does about 6 or 7 in a day, good money for little work sounds good. Of all the things in aviation that will kill you 20 minute Annual inspection would be at the bottom of the list.
The FAA wrote the Annual inspection requirements a long time ago Rag bag aircraft with cotton fabric, now most aircraft last forever with little or no upkeep. Do we still need the Annual inspections probably not, but it's a good money maker for a 20 minute Annual.
not really.Glad to see you back to you're old self...![]()
I did. Post 42.
Don't need to call them.
FTFY. Here's one reference on this topic. There are others.where does it say the inspector can delegate anyoneanyonecanto do it.
Curious. So by your comment you approve of a 20 min annual, or is this how you do one?Do we still need the Annual inspections probably not, but it's a good money maker for a 20 minute Annual.
FTFY. Here's one reference on this topic. There are others.
https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/agc/practice_areas/regulations/interpretations/Data/interps/2015/Amalong - (2015) Legal Interpretation.pdf
We have a IA around that does the same thing for 20 minutes and $300. Annual sign off, does about 6 or 7 in a day, good money for little work sounds good. Of all the things in aviation that will kill you 20 minute Annual inspection would be at the bottom of the list.
The FAA wrote the Annual inspection requirements a long time ago Rag bag aircraft with cotton fabric, now most aircraft last forever with little or no upkeep. Do we still need the Annual inspections probably not, but it's a good money maker for a 20 minute Annual.
If we are going by the exact literal meaning of the wording, a female cannot clean the aircraft.Appendix D to Part 43—Scope and Detail of Items (as Applicable to the Particular Aircraft) To Be Included in Annual and 100-Hour Inspections
(a) Each person performing an annual or 100-hour inspection shall, before that inspection, remove or open all necessary inspection plates, access doors, fairing, and cowling. He shall thoroughly clean the aircraft and aircraft engine.
where does it say the inspector can delegate anyone anyone can it.
I wish that was true, and so do a lot of other experienced mechanics. We've seen what gets ignored in quick-and-dirty annuals, the enormous cost of replacing things that would have been easily repairable a few inspections ago, and the heartbreaking bills the customer gets. Most often it's the guy that got such a good deal on this here airplane. Nice new paint and upholstery, too.now most aircraft last forever with little or no upkeep. Do we still need the Annual inspections probably not, but it's a good money maker for a 20 minute Annual.
Inexperienced mechanics and many owners suffer the delusions brought on by wishful thinking. Some of them are used to buying a new car and driving it for five years with nothing more than oil and filter changes. They think--they want to think--that airplanes are the same. They're too young to remember the cars we grew up with, needing maintenance very regularly and often just quitting any old time. Our airplanes are from that generation of technology.Otherwise known as a bottom.feeder. I have had to fix the results of that BS. No thank you.
How’s your collection of Snap On tools coming along?On the CRJ I believe that some of our inspections do indeed do more harm than good. We have one area that’s notorious for tools and other items being left behind in. So now we open it up and go inside to inspect it every single day. Which in my opinion leads to a lot more stuff getting left in there.![]()
FYI: you can do that now by having your FSDO approve a Progressive Inspection which can be due at "X hours." However, in my experience, you'll be wishing you had your annual back after the 1st part of your Progressive Inspection is due.Wouldn't it make sense to have the inspection formally known as an annual and make the requirement at X hours.
Not really. Part 91 is an operational standard. There is no requirement an annual must be complied with unless the owner wanted to operate the aircraft. I know of 3 aircraft right now that do not have a current annual and they are not in violation of any FAR. Only if you want to operate that aircraft do the FARs require a annual inspection in the preceding 12 months. I've also come across several aircraft that have not flown 100 hours in the past 6-8 years. FWIW, between an annual or a progressive inspection there is enough flexibility to keep any aircraft current per 91.409. Outside of that, just let it sit until your ready to fly it as some people do.Some planes fly 0 hours a year yet are still required to have an annual.
Then you have the plane go 15 years with no inspection....I think 100 hour inspections would be fair and practicable. I'd say the vast majority of GA pilots don't fly 100 hours in a year. (there are exceptions...not interested in a urine discharge contest) Some planes fly 0 hours a year yet are still required to have an annual.
You don't have to fly 100hrs to do a 100hr inspectionI think 100 hour inspections would be fair and practicable
true....but you missed his point....totally.You don't have to fly 100hrs to do a 100hr inspection