Air Wagner..... He’s baaaaackk.

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  1. midlifeflyer

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    Maybe when Garmin bought FltPlan?
    Where did you see that it's only iOS? Here are the FltPlan Go! Android instructions.
    https://flttrack.fltplan.com/FltPlanInfo/Garmin_FltPlan_HOW-TO_Android.pdf
     
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    Hmmm. I guess we need to have someone to try it.
     
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    If work weren't so insane right now I'd run to the hangar and try. But work.....
     
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    I used FPG with it over a year ago.
     
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    Something must've happened...
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    must be because he's such a GREAT pilot, people were probably overwhelmed with the amount of greatness oozing from his videos.
     
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    Call from the FSDO?
     
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    Or a call from the new owner’s insurer...
     
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    We can all speculate but who knows? our guess is as good as mine, maybe better. This isn't the first time he's taken everything down. Someone on another forum suggested it was the last series, the "instruction" given to the new instrument pilot. Technical legality/illegality aside, we know from Bryan's experience, the FAA doesn't treat "impersonating a CFI" as a joking matter.
     
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    I think they are still there, he just made them all private. Someone must've ratted him out.
     
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    I would assume he has been ratted out multiple times, but maybe this time they found something that could stick.
     
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    Would like to think so, but...

    he didn’t claim to be a CFI and I don’t think he signed any log books as CFI. So is that really being a CFI?
     
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    He was a lot closer to being an instructor than he should have been in my opinion.
     
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    I agree. But enough to nail him? I am just trying to think of what FAR he would have violated.

    No definition of “flight training” or “training” in Part 1. 61.1 defines that sort of circularly for this purpose as the training received from an authorized instructor.

    Looks like 61.3 (d)(2) might apply. It lists the things that require an instructor certificate. But this lists training to qualify for solo flights and endorsements.

    It didn’t seem like he was doing any of those things.

    Not to defend Air Wagner.
     
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    I don’t know. I’m not too worried about him getting violated. He should stop though
     
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    Stop what? Dropping out of the clouds in a 45 degree bank or teaching others to do it?
     
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    Ideally both but I only care about the teaching part.
     
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    So, are you saying giving advice to other pilots is instruction? If so, basically everyone here ought to turn in their certificates.
     
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    No. That’s not what I’m saying. I’m saying that what he was doing is something he should stop doing. I didn’t say anything about anyone else.
     
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    Stop trying to help the guy learn? Mmmkay.
     
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    Jerry needs the help. Not the other way around.He has no business “helping” anyone regarding airmanship.
     
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    Maybe. No logging, no compensation to Jerry, probably not instruction.

    OTOH, I could only stand to watch one of them but it's easy to see it as a pilot with only private pilot multi privileges giving (very bad) instruction - what appears to be transition training - to an inexperienced pilot. Again, we are just speculating, but I can see the FAA seeing it and wanting to investigate. Or someone reported he was giving instruction which almost requires the FAA to check it out. That's why I mentioned Bryan's experience. He made an obvious joke about giving someone a flight review and the FAA invited him in for a logbook review, looking in particular at entries mentioning flying with someone else.

    Of course, it could be about one of his other antics. Or maybe since he shut off hate comments, he started getting hate messages by other means, and decided it just wasn't worth it. Or nothing other than a personal decision to pull them.
     
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    Learn what? A don't do what I do approach?

    I still find it hard to believe you defend this guy's flying and say it's good.
     
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    If the other is already multi engine rated, and he’s just mentoring him on a new airplane, there’s nothing illegal about that.
     
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    I still find it hard to believe how much grown pilots act like teenagers
     
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    The other guy is multi rated and instrument rated, but apparently did his instrument checkride in a single but not on his multi ride (I don't actually know any more of the story behind that). His certificate isn't hard to look up.
     
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    He has to be related to Jerry, either by blood or business. No other explanation
     
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    I don’t think it’s illegal. I think Jerry has no business mentoring or helping anyone.

    Apparently @N1120A thinks a professional pilots assessment of Jerry’s skill set based on Jerry’s statements and actions is some how adolescent.

    @EdFred seems to be of the opinion that @N1120A is either really naive or in love. :dunno:

    opinions are all we have here. They are all based on limited knowledge and influenced by our personal experiences. It’s what makes POA so much fun.
     
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    Yeah, blindly defending your friends without realizing how dangerous they are is teenage behavior. An adult will call out friends on their shenanigans. If one of my friends or students pulled this **** he does on camera, I would be all over them, and let it be known publicly it's unacceptable. I would not take the "leave Britney alone" stance and defend the 'airmanship' antics. You know, like teenagers do.
     
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    If true, makes it worse.
     
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    I would not want my flights to be criticized frame by frame for angle of bank and airspeed. Actually, I would, for learning, review and improvement. It takes courage to put the videos out there. Maybe some things aren't perfect, but I think he does an acceptable job. He's still here, he can still use his airplane and I haven't heard any Brashers.
     
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    Which is not what is going with him. He still hand flies approaches like ****, and has the entire time he's been putting out videos. He has demonstrated he doesn't learn anything from the valid criticism, and just laughs it off because you have the people who have zero clue about instrument flying saying "awesome video man" and contribute to him thinking he's actually a good instrument pilot.

    you should never be in a pilot induced 45+ degrees of bank and 2000fpm descent while on an instrument approach. But it happens over and over and over and...
     
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    If you think this is an "acceptable job" for breaking out of the clouds on an ILS, I guess that's your opinion. If it were followed by "wow! I really screwed that one up. Here's what I need to do differently," rather than repeating the actions which produced it and teaching those actions to a new pilot, I'd probably agree with you.

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    It might take courage. Or maybe hubris or narcissism.
     
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    You can tell the guys with "courage" easily. They are the ones who start off a video with, "I wasn't going to post this but figured we could all learn something from it."
     
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    I'm just one of those dumb, professional pilots, but if I were an FO sitting to his right, I'd be off the trip at the next airport followed by a nice lengthy convo with pro standards. If he were my FO, he'd be off the trip followed by a nice lengthy convo with pro standards.
     
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    I'm sorry, I don't see the problem. We have a lot of 20,000 hr pilots here who say his flying is lousy and dangerous. He is not a 20,000 hour professional pilot. If Jerry were as good as all the 20,000 hour pilots here, that would mean flying is trivially easy, or he's a savant.

    My golf swing is not that of Tiger Woods. And yet I play. Don't like that comparison because golf is not done in the NAS? Okay, my aunt's parallel parking sucks. A CDL instructor or professional trucker would blanch at Blanche. And yet, she makes it to and from the hair salon without nicking a fender or drawing blood. Based on risk and exposure, my aunt imperils many more people than Jerry.
     
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    Can you share a link to your aunt's YouTube channel about her driving adventures?
     
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    Does your aunt post her exploits on youtube for an ego boost?
     
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