A320 or 737 type rating?

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  1. jax12

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    Hello all,
    If anyone could offer some career advice, I'd be most grateful.

    I'll be paying for my ATP and type rating out of pocket in order to make myself more competitive for airline interviews.

    I only have part 135 SEL-turbine experience. I'm not really sure which type rating I should pursue to make myself more competitive with major airlines. Any suggestions or insights would be highly welcome and appreciated.
     
  2. Greg Bockelman

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    My choice would be the 737. The big 3 have both. But just about everyone has Boeing products.
     
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    Disclaimer: I am not an airline guy yet, just a .mil dude who got my ATP. I went with the 737 because of this logic. No airline cares about your type rating because they’re going to train you their own way. Also, there’s recency of experience requirements with your type rating that you won’t meet after you get it unless you’re already hired with an airline.

    The only airline that seems to care at all about a type rating is SWA, even though they don’t officially require it, and they fly the 737.
     
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    So therefore, consider a citation or something that might come in handy while you wait or if you get furloughed.

    Unless you’re really targeting SWA.
     
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    The 737 type would be simpler, and I'd think cheaper, because of the complexity of the A320's fly-by-wire system.
     
  6. midwestpa24

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    Does going out and spending the money on a type rating help getting hire at an airline? They are just going to have to train you anyway. I could see a type rating being a plus for a corporate operator, because they don't care as much about how you were trained just that you have it.
     
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    A 737 type rating is the least expensive TR that I know of.
     
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    got to disagree with you about simpler. the A320 was designed to be flown by a captain and a chimp, they don't want you to know much about it. my 320 type was the easiest type I have gotten. systems on the 737, because of the age, are more in depth. not to mention those memory items. none, or possibly one on the 320 depending on who is flying it.
     
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    Airbus’ sims fly EXACTLY like the plane, unlike most other sims/planes.

    Pretty short program.
     
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    Actually the aircraft flies like the sim, not the other way around. It’s completely soulless with zero feedback. Happily almost all more modern fly by wire systems incorporate feedback loops into the system. The 787 and A220 are excellent examples as well as most new business jets.
     
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    In fact having a type rating for an airliner with no time can be a red flag for an airline as they may think that you are more interested in flying for an airline with that type.
     
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    Not true.

    Getting the type in conjunction with the new rules for an ATP is just another way of doing it. Having a type rating (any type) also shows the applicant has the ability to be trained.
     
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    No feed back on the 7X and I would definitely not call that plane soulless. I'd say it's quite the opposite and as far as I can tell it's the most soulful of the fbw business jets
     
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    Keep in mind that with only SEL turbine time, a jet type rating with a 100% simulator checkride is going to have a supervised operating experience limitation attached to it, and unless you actually fly that type, it’ll stay on your certificate “forever”.

    Probably not a big deal, but worth mentioning.
     
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    A type rating without any experience in the plane or at least some equivalent experience (other 121/turbine time) is pretty useless.

    As far as 737/Airbus...well either will be fine as they are both the most prolific airframes out there. There is no learning curve between the two.
     
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    In theory the Bus is an easy airplane. In reality I find it a bit challenging. Yes, in a third world country you’d be fine slowing to the managed programmed speeds on cue, but in the US this is useless. Any Bus pilot knows we are constantly overriding (tricking) the airplane to do other things. I think this complicates the flying, as we all know a change in speed effs up your vertical profile. Sometimes the Bus likes it, other times it does not. Maybe Boeing is the same, not sure.

    Type rating in the Bus, just learning the laws, can be mystifying. The rest of the type may be easy. Flying the airplane... not so much.
     
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    How about doing what it takes to get on with a ‘regional’ airline once hiring ramps up? No need for either type rating. You’ll eventually need ME PIC turbine time anyway, the way I see it.
     
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    Probably doesn’t matter which one you get. I’d go with whatever is going to be cheaper for you.
     
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    If you are just starting out as an ATP with low hours, you probably won't have much luck getting hired at a mainline carrier anyway. You'll more than likely end up spending time at a regional flying a CRJ/ERJ of some type.
     
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