10 airplanes to avoid

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  1. Pilawt

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    So in summary this is one of those threads that might be better titled, “Top Ten Airplanes That Don’t Fit My Particular Mission Or Tastes Or Interests And Are Therefore Lousy Airplanes.” For each one on the list there are other folks who find it desirable. Thankfully general aviation enjoys a fascinating variety of airplanes and pilots.
     
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  2. Pilawt

    Pilawt Final Approach

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    Cardinal was the first Cessna with the tubular main gear legs (1968), followed by the Model 207 (1969). Interestingly, the 206 still has the flat spring gear. I’ve heard that the attach points for the tubular gear wouldn’t fit with the 206’s load floor and cargo doors.
     
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    207 is pretty much identical to 206 where the gear attaches to so I doubt it's that.
     
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    Say wut?

    I guess you only mean to create the vacuum.
     
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    Crap. There goes my plan for a Mooney as my second plane. Low blow on Thanksgiving lol
    I trained on a Cherokee 140 with the quadrant, toe brakes, and the window crank trim on the roof. IMHO the best combo.
     
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    If your Venturi iced up you’d lose vacuum pressure.
     
  7. Pilawt

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    Forward frame of the 206 cargo door is very close to the MLG attach point, but on the 207 it’s about a foot and a half aft.
     
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    So then you continue on your Aspen retrofit, right?
     
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    Staunchly opposed to airplanes made of paper. The early models had problems with the paperclip not staying in place during the landing phase. Add to that, the early paperclips were prone to rust.
     
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    mscard88 Touchdown! Greaser!

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    :yeahthat: agree 100%!

    This all that matters, what one likes.

     
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    mscard88 Touchdown! Greaser!

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    That was your problem, using paper clips. Tape much lighter. :biggrin:
     
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    I am finding it difficult to understand why your statement would only apply to Mooney’s. Don’t you think it would be wise to be able to afford to maintain ANY aircraft properly. I wouldn’t feel safe flying any aircraft otherwise. ALL aircraft or any vehicle have their Achilles heel. A responsible owner pilot should do their research and know how to keep it airworthy. Seems to be common sense to me.
     
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    Funny, I am in control of my automatic transmission, and I feel what the suspension is doing as well as when the tires are about to lose grip. The Alison transmission seems to know more than I do. Even the Subaru will downshift itself to hold speed going downhill. And I use the flappy paddle shifter to downshift aggressively when the light changes to red....

    Driving a truck with 13 plus forward gears took the fun right out of sticks.

    But when younger I had sticks in my pickups. I could repair those easier and cheaper than automatics.
     
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    I avoid any plane that smells like a clam bake.
     
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    Well played.

    I mean, it’s just trace to light ice. Airplane can handle it just fine!
     
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    F-in idiot
     
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    5 pages, not a record yet.. :)
     
  18. brien23

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    You clearly have no idea of the general condition of a lot of GA aircraft that the owners cheap out on. Get a grip on reality their are a lot of people that wont or cant maintain their aircraft due to the $$$ of ownership and still fly them..
     
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    Or he just lands smoothly. Mine isn't leaking yet either. I would not be terribly surprised if it started, given the common opinion, but so far it's not. BTW, it was re-sealed during its stint in Japan (later imported back).
     
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    And Brett Cue...
     
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    I think there’s an AD on those paper clips involving taping them on so they stay...
     
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    Your reply is a Non sequitur.

    My knowledge regarding the statistics of how many planes are properly maintained has NOTHING to do with what I wrote. Your original implication was that a particular brand was the only brand owned for which the owner could not afford to properly maintain.

    In fact your response goes to provide evidence that my original response was correct since according to you there are planes everywhere improperly maintained. A statement I agree with BTW.

    Just curious, what is driving your anger and aggressiveness here?
     
  23. Zeldman

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    I don't know about anyone else, but I would avoid this plane.....

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    You know what they say....

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  25. Brad Smith

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    Not wanting to fly the 337 because of alternator and vacuum pump failures is just plain silly. ANY aircraft that is not maintained properly is subject to more failures than one that is maintained properly. The airframe of the 337 has nothing to do with component failures but is a reflection of the quality of the parts installed, adherence to maintenance schedules and the skill level of the shop maintaining the aircraft. The 337 is no different mechanically than a 210 with a second engine. Let's approach our conclusions logically and leave emotion out of the equation.
     
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    It's definitely just like religion, everyone has their own and thinks it's the best. So when someone tries to sell me their religion, I try to sell them some drugs and neither of us is buying the other's sh*t!

    Hey, Brien, wanna buy some hash?!?!
     
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    Agreed! We can use the Icon A5 as an example