“If you need anything I’ll be in the back.”

Wonder how long until that medical certificate gets revoked.
"The charges against Mr. Jones are shocking to his mother and family," said Jones' lawyer, …At this stage we are acutely concerned with his mental health….
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I wonder if he filled out his medical app honestly. People acting out like this make it much harder for those with issues that are under control to get a medical.
 
PaulS said:
I wonder if he filled out his medical app honestly. People acting out like this make it much harder for those with issues that are under control to get a medical.
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If you've never been tested / diagnosed, what do you report?
 
EdFred said:
If you've never been tested / diagnosed, what do you report?
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Not sure it will ever come out, but it sounds like there was a history. A family doesn't usually start talking about mental health until there has been some type of acting out. It usually builds, but this could have been his first episode.
 
Tarheelpilot said:
I guess you could just read through the DSM and see if you have any reportable illness and go straight to the HIMS AME for guidance.
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If I can't be called as an expert witness to testify about said diagnosis, I shouldn't be self diagnosing and fidning someone to agree with me either.

Just sayin.
 
He’s 19-peak age for onset of a schizophrenic break. He may not have had significant psychiatric symptoms previously.

May not be his issue, at all. But…

"incoherent speech, disorganized behavior, mood lability and appears to be experiencing psychosis." Was how his lawyer described his mental state.
 
SFDukie said:
He’s 19-peak age for onset of a schizophrenic break. He may not have had significant psychiatric symptoms previously.

May not be his issue, at all. But…

"incoherent speech, disorganized behavior, mood lability and appears to be experiencing psychosis." Was how his lawyer described his mental state.
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As I’ve said elsewhere, counsel will say whatever you pay them to say. If that means saying you’re crazy to stay out of jail or prison that’s one thing. But it’s not a medical diagnosis.
 
SFDukie said:
He’s 19-peak age for onset of a schizophrenic break. He may not have had significant psychiatric symptoms previously.

May not be his issue, at all. But…

"incoherent speech, disorganized behavior, mood lability and appears to be experiencing psychosis." Was how his lawyer described his mental state.
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Or... Being 19 popped a pill or...something. remember crazy lady seeing the dude that wasn't real?
 
TCABM said:
As I’ve said elsewhere, counsel will say whatever you pay them to say. If that means saying you’re crazy to stay out of jail or prison that’s one thing. But it’s not a medical diagnosis.
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For sure. Here though, it seems to jibe with the descriptions of his behavior on that flight.
 
EdFred said:
If I can't be called as an expert witness to testify about said diagnosis, I shouldn't be self diagnosing and fidning someone to agree with me either.

Just sayin.
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Yep you are right. Now that really think about it only a dumb ass would do what I suggested.
 
donjohnston said:
Is there a student pilot license or certificate now? Back in my day it was your medical.
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"Back in the Day", your initial medical included a yellow tab that was pulled and served as your student certificate and a medical.
Now everything is online. So if you need a medical prior to solo, you do that through MedXpress and see the local AME to complete the process and the AME prints the medical certificate from the online source. To get your PLASTIC student pilot certificate, you apply online through IACRA with your CFI. You can print a temp paper student certificate, your plastic certificate will come through the mail. It's only good for 5 yrs.
 
Pilot99B said:
www.nbcnews.com

Student pilot allegedly tries to storm Alaska Airlines cockpit multiple times midflight

After Flight 322 landed, the teen consented to have his belongings searched and investigators found “multiple notebooks with writings describing how to operate an aircraft, including take-off, in-air and landing techniques,” according to an affidavit.
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I wonder what mental disorder this student pilot suffers from?
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Clearly side effects from his acne medicine.

But it's pretty scary that a student pilot would have notebooks with how to operate an aircraft in them...
 
BillTIZ said:
"Back in the Day", your initial medical included a yellow tab that was pulled and served as your student certificate and a medical.
Now everything is online. So if you need a medical prior to solo, you do that through MedXpress and see the local AME to complete the process and the AME prints the medical certificate from the online source. To get your PLASTIC student pilot certificate, you apply online through IACRA with your CFI. You can print a temp paper student certificate, your plastic certificate will come through the mail. It's only good for 5 yrs.
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So there is a Student Pilot Certificate? Is it required?
 
From the original article:

The flight was traveling from California to Virginia on March 3, according to an affidavit filed by federal air marshal Thomas G. Pattinson and reviewed by CBS News.
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I'm glad they had that affidavit to determine where the aircraft was heading.
 
PaulS said:
I wonder if he filled out his medical app honestly. People acting out like this make it much harder for those with issues that are under control to get a medical.
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He probably never applied for a medical. He also probably never had a lesson in his life.
 
dmspilot said:
Correct, if it was issued after April 1, 2016. Ref. 61.19(c)(1).
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Thanks! I thought when the originally published the change in 2016 the student plastic certificate had a 5yr limit.
 
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