How To Lose Weight

I only use real sugar (and I don't eat low or nonfat anything - ugh, if I'm going to eat it, it will taste good or I won't bother). In fact if sweetened soy uses something artificial, I need to reconsider using it. I don't believe the stuff I have at home is sweetened but not sure about Starbucks.

Like I said, if your weight is at a healthy level and you aren't gaining, then all that is fine. I hate to tell you, but if it doesn't taste good, I don't eat it either. I just do so avoiding a lot of refined carbohydrate and fat. I've fed many vegetarians and non vegetarians alike. The two things that had never happened at my household, anyone going away hungry and anyone not enjoying what I cooked for them.
 
Recently i decided to get serious about giving up milk after lots of reading about the hormones in it, etc ( even though I only buy organic). No other differences although now I usually have peanut butter toast instead of cereal for breakfast. I use soy milk for tea n coffee. I still put away chocolate before bed time ( ie right now, as I peruse the iPad...) and etc. Tonight is dark, last night was with hazelnuts, etc.

I lost 7 pounds - 5 in the first two weeks, two more since then.

In your part of the country you have another option a bit of a drive away in Amish country; go buy Amish 2% milk. If it's for public sale, it will be safe. Ask if they have lactose free, it's ok with them as a technical process. I use 2% Lactaid for my milk needs and it's good for months open in limited coffee & light cereal use.
 
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You are welcome any time you find yourself in my fair city. We'll be hosting another POAer for brunch on Sunday.
I'm not sure I know where your fair city is... or if I did, I have forgotten (sorry). But you can bet I'll be stopping by if I am and thanks for the invite! And the same goes for you! (Not that I'm known for my cooking, but I haven't killed anyone yet, so that's good).
 
In your part of the country you have another option a bit of a drive away in Amish country; go buy Amish 2% milk. If it's for public sale, it will be safe. Ask if they have lactose free, it's ok with them as a technical process. I use 2% Lactaid for my milk needs and it's good for months.
Buy from those criminals selling a dangerous product? Of course the feds have no problem with feeding cows copious amounts of antibiotics or treating them with hormones.

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2...y-fda-raids-shuts-down-raw-milk-business?lite
 
Buy from those criminals selling a dangerous product? Of course the feds have no problem with feeding cows copious amounts of antibiotics or treating them with hormones.

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2...y-fda-raids-shuts-down-raw-milk-business?lite

That was the other reason, thanks for reminding me. Antibiotics.

Naturally, I still love my ribeye steak (and leave that fat in, don't cut it off!) so that probably isn't much help, incrementally. But it's a start. I was really surprised to lose anything, especially that quickly. As I've mentioned my eating habits are the same but for this. I haven't even gone gung ho on biking yet this season, either.
 
Buy from those criminals selling a dangerous product? Of course the feds have no problem with feeding cows copious amounts of antibiotics or treating them with hormones.

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2...y-fda-raids-shuts-down-raw-milk-business?lite

Ok, I never worked the dairy trade but did know some dairy farmers in TX & OK and I don't recall any of them using anything more than medically required to keep a healthy heard; it's just too expensive for a low value product. We had dairy goats but never even bothered going Class B dairy. I'd go out the door with my coffee black with sugar, grab a bowl of feed and and shake it; gave it to who ever came up that had milk squirting it direct in my coffee after clearing the teat.

No one in any of our, my in laws, or anyone's ranching operations were these techniques in use. Everything was minimum vaccination and disease control on an as required basis.
 
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Buy from those criminals selling a dangerous product? Of course the feds have no problem with feeding cows copious amounts of antibiotics or treating them with hormones.

The antibiotics are necessary in a feed lot environment where cows wind up before going to slaughter. They don't affect people at all, either in meat or milk, they don't show up in enough concentration in either to be bioactive. Growth hormone is similarly broken down by the digestive system, it can't be transported into the blood stream whole, and is unlikely to make it whole into any food product.

The linked article a was about an Amish farmer who wouldn't pasteurize his milk, as required by the FDA and most states. Hence his milk could cross state lines. I won't dignify anyone questioning the efficacy of milk pasteurization.
 
The antibiotics are necessary in a feed lot environment where cows wind up before going to slaughter. They don't affect people at all, either in meat or milk, they don't show up in enough concentration in either to be bioactive. Growth hormone is similarly broken down by the digestive system, it can't be transported into the blood stream whole, and is unlikely to make it whole into any food product.

The linked article a was about an Amish farmer who wouldn't pasteurize his milk, as required by the FDA and most states. Hence his milk could cross state lines. I won't dignify anyone questioning the efficacy of milk pasteurization.
My concern is the widespread emergence of antibiotic resistant bacteria.

The medicines are known as cephalosporins and include brands like Cefzil and Keflex. They are among the most common antibiotics prescribed to treat pneumonia, strep throat, and skin and urinary tract infections. Surgeons also often use them before surgery, and they are particularly popular among pediatricians.
The drugs’ use in agriculture has, according to many microbiologists, led to the development of bacteria that are resistant to their effects, a development that many doctors say has cost thousands of lives.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/05/health/policy/fda-restricts-use-of-antibiotics-in-livestock.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...nd-in-cows-milk/2011/06/02/AG9pUTHH_blog.html
 
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to me the question is would you like to die now or later re: antibiotics and resistant bacteria.
 
to me the question is would you like to die now or later re: antibiotics and resistant bacteria.
Who is going to die now and why?
Antibiotics are routinely fed to cattle so they will gain weight more quickly and not to treat disease. The price we pay for cheap beef and milk may well be superbugs resistant to all known antibiotics.
 
yea, there is some major tradeoffs to feeding our country instead of letting people starve. enough are already doing that with our cheap beef and milk. no good answers really.
 
Who is going to die now and why?
Antibiotics are routinely fed to cattle so they will gain weight more quickly and not to treat disease. The price we pay for cheap beef and milk may well be superbugs resistant to all known antibiotics.

They'll get resistance eventually, it is just a matter of time. Sorry Gary, your microbes will get you in the end. They always do.

Personally, I think you all eat way more meat than your digestive system was designed to handle, so the antibiotics and hormones are way down on my hit parade. But you can fairly easily forego all that...
 
yea, there is some major tradeoffs to feeding our country instead of letting people starve. enough are already doing that with our cheap beef and milk. no good answers really.
:rofl: Oh please, people starving? Who is starving? I case you missed it this thread is about weight loss. Obesity is epidemic in this country. In any case meat is not essential for a healthful diet and may be harmful even when consumed in moderation.
 
of course us rich fat-cat pilots need to lose weight. we can afford cheap meat and milk.
 
of course us rich fat-cat pilots need to lose weight. we can afford cheap meat and milk.
I love a good steak as much as anybody but will agree that the vegetarians are right. A plant based diet can be more healthful. Meat production has a high cost in terms of energy and environmental impact. The grain used to fatten cattle could feed a lot of people. Land used to grow grain for cattle could probably be converted to grow more healthful vegetables. If superbugs emerge it will not be pretty.
 
:rofl: Oh please, people starving? Who is starving? I case you missed it this thread is about weight loss. Obesity is epidemic in this country. In any case meat is not essential for a healthful diet and may be harmful even when consumed in moderation.

CNBC just reported that this year's statistics will show that the average American is 100 lbs overweight.
 
OK... it's been awhile since any new posts have appeared on this thread. I was just wonderng how everyone was doing on their weight loss/maintenance lifestyles. After two vacations in a row recently, very close together, and a lot of slacking off since the holidays (Christmas/Thanksgiving) I need to get back with it and I know there are no excuses for me. I have an exercise room in my house full of equipment and I know what it takes to get my weight back in line. The trouble with me is that 5 pounds on me shows and when you are smaller (height and body type) to begin with (and without the metabolism of a much younger individual) any extra weight sticks to you like glue. So, post an inspirational story here while I hit the treadmill and I'll come back and read it after my workout. I just went through this thread from the beginning and I appreciate (and need) the inspiration. It's been easy so far sticking to the "plan" on my week off, but I start my work week again tonight and I know it will be much tougher this next week. :rolleyes2:
 
I'm going to discount the weight I've lost due to personal stresses - I wouldn't wish them on anybody - the misery diet sucks.

What's worked (and I think it's what Weight Watchers really teaches) is to PAY ATTENTION to when and what you eat. Small changes in this behavior really pay off. Exercise is good but I think of it as an activity for maintenance regardless of if I want to lose any weight, so it's not a part of my thinking on weight loss.

Anyway, I know you can meet your goal. Anytime you start to eat, think of your recent Annual and maybe your appetite will decrease ;-)
 
I'm going to discount the weight I've lost due to personal stresses - I wouldn't wish them on anybody - the misery diet sucks.

What's worked (and I think it's what Weight Watchers really teaches) is to PAY ATTENTION to when and what you eat. Small changes in this behavior really pay off. Exercise is good but I think of it as an activity for maintenance regardless of if I want to lose any weight, so it's not a part of my thinking on weight loss.

Anyway, I know you can meet your goal. Anytime you start to eat, think of your recent Annual and maybe your appetite will decrease ;-)


LOL... thanks. :rolleyes: That and the insurance process I'm going through now has given me some personal stress that I wouldn't wish on anyone unless I truly disliked them (a lot). Maybe I should have clarified up there... I need to tone up more than anything and add more lean muscle as opposed to strictly just dropping weight. Ugh... the thing is, who likes working out?? It's a PITA and I'm just not athletic! I was always picked third to last in gym class in grade school (before the two already "fat" kids in class) and to this day, my favorite activity is sitting one spot on a comfy chair playing with scissors and paper. :rolleyes2:
 
I always liked hiking/climbing for exercise, because the view at the top was rewarding. Not so much fun in flat areas. Swimming is also not a lot of "fun" except in the ocean or maybe in a Great Lake.

Running is right out.

Canoeing/kayaking is good. Biking can also be fun if you've got a safe place to ride.
 
I am the most un-athletic person you will ever meet in your life, and I used to love working out. I miss free weight sessions more than I can say.

I can't disagree with Lynn vis-a-vis weight gain on us little people. Lynn at least has the benefit that when she takes off the extra, she looks hot. That word has never been applied to me outside the contest of body temperature.

I'm feeling it too. A lot of travel, and it's warmed up too much to walk every day. A vegetarian diet is healthful but no panacea, I have to watch what I eat just lie everyone else. Lots of fat vegetarians.
 
A vegetarian diet is healthful but no panacea, I have to watch what I eat just lie everyone else. Lots of fat vegetarians.

My friends 16yo daughter is a raw vegan, has been for a few years now and is a good 60lbs over weight. The only thing I could figure was all the avocados she eats combined with no exercise.
 
My friends 16yo daughter is a raw vegan, has been for a few years now and is a good 60lbs over weight. The only thing I could figure was all the avocados she eats combined with no exercise.

Gotta be. Gaining weight as a vegan isn't easy. The girlfriend of a student tried it, and after a couple months she got so skinny I told her to go get a Big Mac.

Of course, the young lady could easily have metabolic problems contributing to her condition.
 
I went to my doctor last month, and discussed my weight with her. She put me on Phentermine, and in that month, I've lost about 8 pounds. At that rate, I'll be where I want to be in about 6-7 months. Currently at 226, heading for the 170-180 range.

I've had more than a few rough nights of sleep, so I'm taking a benadryl each night to help. I've had Ambien in the past, and it did evil things to me, so I'm not touching that. I have also cut out any and all caffiene while I'm on this stuff, as I've read that it would make sleep difficult as well.

My doctor said that with this stuff, it is important to keep up with the heart and blood pressure, so she'll be seeing me every one to two months while I'm on it.

I've also been watching more what I eat. I eat lots of fruits now, and have increased the vegetables as well. I used to eat beef every day, in some form or another. Now there are days that I don't have any meat at all. I've significantly cut back on the sweets, and what sweets I do eat are now more healthy than the ones I used to eat. Yes, I have a "good" sweet snack now and then, but not so often.

One of the problems that I've always had is that I can't leave food on the plate. When I was a kid, we weren't allowed to get up from the table until our plates were empty. I have only recently realized that this is kind of a mental problem for me - if there is too much food on the plate, so be it - I need to clean the plate. But now that I'm conscious of it, I can actually take a take-home from a restaurant when the serving is too big. I have to actually think about it, at this point, but I'm getting there.

Also, I have less of an appetite. I told my wife, in a surprised tone, the other day, that "I'm not hungry!" as we were getting ready for bed. I used to have to have some kind of snack before bed - be it a bowl of ice cream, some cookies, crackers, whatever. The doctor said that this stuff would help to suppress my appetite so that my stomach can shrink down, and it won't take as much food to satisfy that hungry feeling.

As for exercise, someone above said that they were the most unathletic person.... I doubt it. I think sitting in front of three computer screens at a desk all day, then going home and plopping down on the couch in front of another computer probably beats that person out. But my wife and I just bought a house, and I've been doing a lot of work around the house. There have actually been a few times when the laptop didn't come out of the bag for a week at a time. As for TV, we don't watch much of it, so that's not an issue. And once I get done with all the projects around the house (will that list ever end?), we will start walking down the street. Since our street is a dead end road, and we're in the foothills of the mountains, just that will be quite a workout. For now, though, I'm getting home from work and working around the house, often until after 10:00, before realizing that I need to grab a quick bite and go to bed, so there's a lot less sitting around than there was.

Anyway, hopefully by Thanksgiving, I'll have this whole transformation done, and will be able to push away from the stuffing, and fit into some smaller jeans.
 
A strategy started by Mrs. Steingar and employed too infrequently by me is to sequester a restaurant meal into two halves at the start of the meal, one half expressly to be taken home. Your portion size then becomes half a meal, which is usually the correct portion size for all but the largest of us.
 
OK... it's been awhile since any new posts have appeared on this thread. I was just wonderng how everyone was doing on their weight loss/maintenance lifestyles.

Slow going right now. After dropping from 205 lb to 165 lb, I'm finding that the last 15 lb I want to lose just doesn't want to come off. I'm stepping up my exercise schedule, because I really don't think I'm eating that much and I've cut out a lot of the bad stuff from my diet already.
 
Today I'm at the healthiest weight I've been at in my life (if I may brag for a second, my BMI is 21.7). I've been that way for about 9 years now. But 10 years ago, when I was training for my private, was a different story: I was 35-40 lbs heavier and definitely in the overweight category bordering on obese. I looked and felt like he!! and I knew I had to do something about it. I quit overeating for one, but the main lifestyle change I made that year was to stop drinking sugary drinks, especially Country Time lemonade (I used to be addicted to the stuff, and iced tea before that, adding gobs of extra sugar to both). It didn't have immediate results, and I toyed with the Atkins diet in the meantime. There was also some of the bad kind of dieting, a stressful breakup plus a devil of a time getting my MVP SI renewed, and those two seemed to be the catalyst unfortunately. I had only dropped about 10 lbs in 6 months but melted off another 20 in the next 3 through a combination of stress and crazy exercise addiction, bicycling 20 miles every other day. And I'd switched to Crystal Light and haven't had any sugar-sweetened drinks in my fridge in the years since.

I wish I could say that I've kept at it out of self-discipline, but the truth is the sugar stuff doesn't taste that much better to me than the aspartame or splenda stuff. And as for eating too much, I just can't do that anymore. Maybe my stomach is smaller, or maybe it's just that I've found that if I'm doing the things that lead to weight gain, my body will scream stop! long before I get to that point. Large meals and lack of exercise make me feel crappy, and not just as in I don't feel like hiking today but as in I'm gonna die crappy. So I kinda have to live and eat healthy if I want to be well enough to keep working... and flying.
 
A strategy started by Mrs. Steingar and employed too infrequently by me is to sequester a restaurant meal into two halves at the start of the meal, one half expressly to be taken home. Your portion size then becomes half a meal, which is usually the correct portion size for all but the largest of us.
This is a good idea. My wife has mentioned it, but never when we're out, so it never comes to mind when it could be used.
Today I'm at the healthiest weight I've been at in my life (if I may brag for a second, my BMI is 21.7). I've been that way for about 9 years now. But 10 years ago, when I was training for my private, was a different story: I was 35-40 lbs heavier and definitely in the overweight category bordering on obese. I looked and felt like he!! and I knew I had to do something about it. I quit overeating for one, but the main lifestyle change I made that year was to stop drinking sugary drinks, especially Country Time lemonade (I used to be addicted to the stuff, and iced tea before that, adding gobs of extra sugar to both). It didn't have immediate results, and I toyed with the Atkins diet in the meantime. There was also some of the bad kind of dieting, a stressful breakup plus a devil of a time getting my MVP SI renewed, and those two seemed to be the catalyst unfortunately. I had only dropped about 10 lbs in 6 months but melted off another 20 in the next 3 through a combination of stress and crazy exercise addiction, bicycling 20 miles every other day. And I'd switched to Crystal Light and haven't had any sugar-sweetened drinks in my fridge in the years since.

I wish I could say that I've kept at it out of self-discipline, but the truth is the sugar stuff doesn't taste that much better to me than the aspartame or splenda stuff. And as for eating too much, I just can't do that anymore. Maybe my stomach is smaller, or maybe it's just that I've found that if I'm doing the things that lead to weight gain, my body will scream stop! long before I get to that point. Large meals and lack of exercise make me feel crappy, and not just as in I don't feel like hiking today but as in I'm gonna die crappy. So I kinda have to live and eat healthy if I want to be well enough to keep working... and flying.

Thanks for the inspiring post.
 
OK... it's been awhile since any new posts have appeared on this thread. I was just wonderng how everyone was doing on their weight loss/maintenance lifestyles.

After hitting 198, I've slacked off a bit and been bouncing between 195 and 202 for the last month or so. I'm ok with it as I know what is causeing it (ice cream on hot days in hell on the diet but so good for the soul). :D
 
I've decided to make Fridays my "weight day" and as of today, after starting back dieting and exercising regularly since getting back from Gaston's, I'm down 1 pound. Yeah... it's a process. :rolleyes: This kinda scares me though, because this should have been an "easy" week with bigger results. This was my non-working week. From here, it's going to get tough because I turn my schedule around and will spend 10 hours every night next week in a place where the freezers are always full of Oreo cookie ice cream and the shelves full of cinnamon sugar popcorn. At 3am, these things are very tempting on a slow night when the planet Vicodin isn't sending many aliens through the drive-thru to get supplies and the most exercise I get is walking from the back of the store to the front to get my employee discount. :rolleyes2: Still, I'm going to try. Instead of getting on the computer to check messages and waste time on Facebook, I'm going to come home in the mornings and hit the treadmill more regularly than I have been. And cut out the junk at night. At least that will be something.
 
See you have to purge all of that stuff from the house, and you won't be tempted to eat it.

I carbed out last night. Bad, bad, bad.
 
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