When is the pilot NOT supposed to read back ATC's instructions? IFR or VFR.
How about a tower instruction to turn base? Read required back or optional or?
Where does it say that? I always do.Well you're not sposed to read back squak codes
How about a tower instruction to turn base? Read required back or optional or?
Where does it say that? I always do.
When it gets busy...
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Where does it say that? I always do.
I've heard pilots read back "caution wake turbulence" or when ATC says cleared to land runway 1 wind 030 13G20. They will read back the entire thing including the wind speeds which I think is pretty unecessary
The only thing I read back is hold short instructions, because that's the only thing I'm required to read back. Nobody wants to hear unnecessary yap.
Here it is off a king study guide, not looking up the rest right now
The only thing I read back is hold short instructions, because that's the only thing I'm required to read back. Nobody wants to hear unnecessary yap.
I'll read back IFR clearances of course. I do abbreviate the heck out of them.
"N123 cleared as filed
4k
10 in 10
4325
26.7"
If cleared for the approach at KABC, cancel IFR this freq, how bout those lakers, blah blah blah. I'll just read back "cleared for the approach"
If cleared the approach, cross WAYPOINT at 3200, I'll read back "crossing WAYPOINT 3200 cleared the approach"
If cleared takeoff RWY 23 caution wake turbulence, minimal time on the runway, I'll just read back "cleared RWY 23"
But if it's the same as above, but with a turn to 245, I'll also read back, "cleared RWY 23, right 245" Just to make sure were all on the same page.
Which is the exact reason for read backs...
When cleared for IMMEDIATE takeoff.When is the pilot NOT supposed to read back ATC's instructions? IFR or VFR.
When cleared for IMMEDIATE takeoff.
"Bugsmasher 1234Alpha identing"Well you're not sposed to read back squak codes
Perhaps the question should be what do controllers not want read back.Well....
If you don't read it back, and I need it (or I'm not 100% sure you got it right), I'm going to repeat myself. And I hate having to repeat myself.
listen upJust make damn sure you heard your tail number right
FAA AIM 4-4-7 said:4-4-7. Pilot Responsibility upon Clearance Issuance
a. Record ATC clearance. When conducting an IFR operation, make a written record of your clearance. The specified conditions which are a part of your air traffic clearance may be somewhat different from those included in your flight plan. Additionally, ATC may find it necessary to ADD conditions, such as particular departure route. The very fact that ATC specifies different or additional conditions means that other aircraft are involved in the traffic situation.
b. ATC Clearance/Instruction Readback.
Pilots of airborne aircraft should read back those parts of ATC clearances and instructions containing altitude assignments, vectors, or runway assignments as a means of mutual verification. The read back of the “numbers" serves as a double check between pilots and controllers and reduces the kinds of communications errors that occur when a number is either “misheard" or is incorrect.
1. Include the aircraft identification in all readbacks and acknowledgments. This aids controllers in determining that the correct aircraft received the clearance or instruction. The requirement to include aircraft identification in all readbacks and acknowledgements becomes more important as frequency congestion increases and when aircraft with similar call signs are on the same frequency.
EXAMPLE-
“Climbing to Flight Level three three zero, United Twelve" or “November Five Charlie Tango, roger, cleared to land runway nine left."
2. Read back altitudes, altitude restrictions, and vectors in the same sequence as they are given in the clearance or instruction.
3. Altitudes contained in charted procedures, such as DPs, instrument approaches, etc., should not be read back unless they are specifically stated by the controller.
4. Initial read back of a taxi, departure or landing clearance should include the runway assignment, including left, right, center, etc. if applicable.
c. It is the responsibility of the pilot to accept or refuse the clearance issued.
When I check in with approach or cetner I'll usually read back te altimeter just for my sake of remembering itI read back most numbers (except altimeter settiing)