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  1. Gerhardt

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    99% of my yt views are music videos. Then interesting engineering things and a few humorous clips from old shows. If something doesn't grab my attention in the first five seconds I'm gone.

    My wife got in the truck the other day and mentioned if I'd ever turned the radio on. I turned it on for her, then back off. Radio has been obsolete for me for more than a decade. In this day and age why listen to something you don't like in hopes that something you do like will eventually be played?
     
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  2. Timbeck2

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    You do know that Kevin is a controller as well right? I like their videos and Kevin, forgive me but there is something that can't be unseen (sort of like the arrow in the FedEx logo) in your videos. Almost every time Jamie is on the radio and the camera is on her, she fiddles with her boom and at the end of her transmission, she always looks to her right. It isn't annoying, odd or otherwise unfavorable, it is just something I noticed. Someday we'll have to get together and play a drinking game sort of like "Bob" for those who remember the Bob Newhart Show. :)

    I think a lot of you got my point but I fear some didn't or just like any other thread it has morphed into something else. I've watched the YouTube guys I mentioned since their first videos. (For the record, the former Mr. Aviation 101 was one that I loved to hate in the beginning but now it seems he has grown up and is less of a spoiled little douchenozzle) I'm happy they are making money off their videos but the videos before all that, I enjoyed a lot more. Then, they didn't have sponsors and they weren't hawking products and/or begging for Patreon money. Is putting out these videos a lot of work? Sure, I suppose it is but I didn't ask anyone to do it. If someone can make a buck off of it, more power to them. I was just making an observation that what used to be informative videos for me is turning into something that resembles televangelism.
     
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    Aaaaah yes, the ''Hi Bob'' game..... I remember the first half of many shows.....
     
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    Ha...yup that’s me. A man with multiple identities. Glad you enjoy the videos. I’m close to finishing a new one, I just to find the time.

    As far as monetizing videos, with the relatively small viewership that aviation videos have (even the more popular ones) YT monetization is not that much money. A lot of the money comes from selling branded swag on their site and brand deals with other organizations. Also, some of them use Patreon, which allows subscribers to collectively fund the channels they want to support. I have no problem with th we guys trying to make some money on this....it really is a lot of work. I just get turned off with the cheap product placement that tries to come across as sincere. I was approached last week to review a product in a video. After laughing because of my tiny viewership, I determined that the only way I would do it is if I’m comepletly upfront about it and if it’s relevant to what I’m doing.
     
  6. Ted DuPuis

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    I've seen Patreon as well. My current favorite YouTube channel (Bus Grease Monkey, for those wondering) has a Patreon account. I've thought about/wondered if that's something I could apply to Cloud Nine. Of course we don't do "artsy" stuff.
     
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    A pity video editing is not among your numerous talents. I think your nonprofit's mission is enormously photogenic. Everyone likes dogs. I just read that they've evolved a muscle who's purpose is to make them more adorable.
     
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    I have thought about this too. I do a lot of flying that people have told me is interesting, and also as you pointed out, puppies are cute. The thing is, I really don't care about having an audience. I couldn't care less about being on TV, I don't care about likes, comments, shares, etc. The only reason I do any of that is because Cloud Nine needs the donations to keep going (despite popular belief, I actually can't afford the MU-2 and never could). If Cloud Nine was my full time job I think I would make an effort, but since I have a day job already, I just haven't been able to bring myself to it.

    If I won the lottery and could actually afford to fly the MU-2, I would probably just stop posting anything about Cloud Nine and just keep on saving puppies. Wouldn't care about donations.
     
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    I'm in the same boat vis a vis Facebook and other social media. I have no desire to participate, but I've books to sell so do it I do. I think videos would just be another good way of soliciting donations for your very worthy cause.
     
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    I've never started a channel on youtube, but I do occasionally get an email from someone saying, "Hey PJ, there's a video of you on youtube." Usually I'm surprised as I didn't know anyone was filming.

    I just wish people would learn to use horizontal mode rather than vertical, but thank God they got me right side up.

    Here's one that surprised me.
     
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    I'm just happy that YouTube exists, and I can post there and share a few flying videos with my friends...for free!

    A video is always a nice souvenir for a first-time passenger...assuming they had a good experience!
     
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    That's you ? Holy cow man... can't think of a more dangerous job. Great pilotage.
     
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    I fully agree, and appreciate the compliment. That's really why Cloud Nine has a website and a Facebook page that I try to manage as well as I can. The photos and videos I post do help a lot for getting donations, that's for sure. In fact Facebook is the primary source of donations these days.
     
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    Very impressive! Does that qualify as a landing for logging purposes? Asking for a friend...LOL
     
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    Make that nearly 1001!


    In college we’d watch Chech n Chong movies, had to drink every time they said man. That didn’t end well...
     
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    That was only 1/2 a landing. I had to come back and pick up the paramedic to log it as a full landing.
     
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    Makes perfect sense! Wouldn't want the paramedic to get mad at you for not coming back. :)
     
  18. Bill Jennings

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    I've posted maybe five or ten vids total, most of them lame unedited vids of motorcycle rides

     
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    Thanks Tim! Reference her fidgeting with the boom. I think that is because we've been flying around for over a year with her mic turned the wrong direction and we just got that fixed. She also has had a short in her jack that cuts out her sidetone...that has been fixed and we installed a new audio panel that is MUCH better than what we had. I'm curious to see if this fixes her fidgeting with the boom issues moving forward. As you know, she wears a very similar headset in the ATC arena and she never touches it at all.

    As far as the look to the right...I just noticed that recently. My guess is that she's so short she can't see over the dash and the view is to the right. :)

    I remember the version of that drinking game with dazed and confused every time that one kid touched his face.
     
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    You helicopter rescue guys are bad ass!
     
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    Glad you took my post as was intended. I've worked with a LOT of controllers over the years and I've seen several who hold the boom close to their mouth as they talk. I've never understood that since it is adjustable. My problem is that we rarely have the manning to go down to the break room to eat so we eat in position all the time. A common problem is that controllers discover that no one can hear them and they find that they have food stuck in the end of their boom.

    By the way, I was really rooting for you to land before she woke up on that last video. :)
     
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    What kind of books? Aviation? Fiction, Non Fiction, educational?
     
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    Ha ha...I only do that if someone doesn't respond to me after two transmissions...the boom gets almost inserted in my mouth as I very loudly try my final attempt before going to guard. It's funny that after you get loud for a bit everyone starts paying close attention. :)

    I thought for sure once I got past the IAF that I could get on the ground before she woke up but it was just too bumpy down low...it eventually woke her.
     
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    Origami. I have one of his books. Well, part of one. Doggo ate a few pages while he was a puppy.
     
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    I gotta ask....did he chit a swan?
     
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    You only need about 100K subscribers to credibly be able to support aviation. That many subs should generate 10-25K per year. That's real money.

    If you get to 500K you can work partner networks and other marketing to make an actual living for yourself.

    There are *tons* of people in those categories.

    I predict that will always be the case. Youtube does not benefit by screwing its producers. They are, after all, the only reason people use youtube. No content, no money.

    The risk to producers (the ones actually making a living) is more around SEO and changing consumer taste than yt squeezing the lemon too hard. I have a friend with 400K subs that supports both himself and his aviation hobby. But he's also well aware that if tastes change, they can change rapidly. So he lives like he still has little money (meaning, he has used his yt revenue to pay of his house, airplane, land, sock away for retirement, etc).

    And, since I've already mentioned it above. Remember to like and subscribe to my channel. :)

     
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    Love your stuff!
     
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    Or as Steveo says it "smash" the like and subscribe button
     
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    Well unless you are trying to give music lessons online, and get hit with Copyright infringement on every video you make. And YouTube always defers to the copyright claimant. One of the guys got his video demonetized because he played a single note. One. Single. Note. Copyright claim by Big Music Company*. The YouTube "appeal system" is that you have go to Big Music Company and appeal to them. What do you think the chances that Big Music Company is going to say "sorry we were wrong" when they are going to get money from that video? Big fat Zero.

    They most certainly screw the producers by not reviewing the claim themselves.


    *Big Music Company is not the actual name of the company.
     
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    That's impressive... I always assumed you'd need somewhere close to a million to actually earn "real" money... but 100K is not unattainable

    Clearly this means then that there are people who actually click the ads and buy stuff

    So someone who has 1 million subscribers, what are they earning for income? Upwards of $100K? That's pretty sick..
     
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    I'll occasionally watch Hoovie's Garage. He's got about 700k subscribers. From some of what he's said on various episodes I'm figuring that his income is something in the ~$200-300k range. Of course most of it gets spent on cars but he did recently buy a pretty nice house and do some work to it that wasn't cheap, and I have no idea how much debt he's in to do any of this. There seem to be a lot of things you can do to optimize/increase income and sometimes he (and other YouTubers) will blatantly tell people some of the things that impact how much they make.

    It's not just how many subscribers you have, it's how many people actually watch your videos and how many videos you actually produce. It seems that one a week is a good minimum. Bus Grease Monkey (my current favorite channel) has been playing with how many to post and what exact format, but I would bet he's steadily building his income as when he's working on a project he's mostly doing daily updates which are ~10 minutes in length and seems to get 15k views within a couple hours, plus the Patreon page is growing.
     
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    Just to give you an idea of the breakdown for a low level guy like me, you can extrapolate the math.
    Nobody is doing it for the money until they are bigtime I suppose.

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    I believe it is a violation of your monitization agreement to disclose that sort of number...
     
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    I think someone accidentally watched something on my Youtube channel once... I'm sure they were looking for interesting flying stuff.
     
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    I thought that myself but I've seen Youtubers even do it in their videos.
     
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    Hey, that'll buy an oil & filter change!
     
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    I have been watching Mikey McBrayn’s YouTube Plane Savers channel. They were resurrecting a neglected DC3 to get it airworthy for D-Day. I think they are taking the plane to OSH this year. Anyway, at the 11:00 minute mark - he summed up the YouTube revenue from this channel. In a little over 6 months the channel made 25K.



    I watch several channels from the people that post here. I was curious - does it help the channel (do you get more revenue?) to let the adds play vs skip them at the first opportunity? Also - does hitting the “like” button help bring in more revenue? I would like to support the channels where possible.
     
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    Subscribed just to spite you and put you one step closer to having to commercialize.
     
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    Letting the ads play increases revenue - clicking on ads helps. The instant skip is supposed to not pay. Like button / comments / subscribing / notifications play into the algorithm to "recommend" videos but do not directly result in ad revenue. If I like a channel, I am more likely to let the ads run. If I dislike the advertiser, I am more likely to let the ad run and even click on it.
     
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    Baffled why anyone would willingly watch more commercial ads than we already are forced to. I skip every ad in every form at the earliest opportunity -- especially since I've probably seen it a hundred times already (no, I have no need whatsoever for Grammarly, thanks).

    One of my son's friends was annoyed that I muted TV commercials. Someone worked hard to produce that, he claimed, and we should give them the courtesy of paying attention to it.

    Sigh.
     
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