Challenged
Pattern Altitude
Good lesson learned. Taken from: https://www.reddit.com/r/flying/comments/aivyeg/my_vfr_to_imc_experience/
BTDT many times while instructing (the legal proper way)....of course it’s always part of a larger lesson on how weather can overcome your capabilities.ABC center, Cessna 123 wondering if we could get a popup IFR?
Cessna 123 squawk 4321.
Cessna 123 radar contact say intentions.
We'd like to get radar vectors to the ILS runway 36
Cessna 123 turn left heading 030, intercept the localizer, maintain 3000 until established, cleared for the ILS runway 36.
Land
No harm no foul.
Instead the dumba$$ decided to scud run at 400' AGL and try and find the airport using google maps. In the process he broke the law and scared a student with 11 hours so bad that he quit flying. That instructor needs to be flipping burgers.
ABC center, Cessna 123 wondering if we could get a popup IFR?
Cessna 123 squawk 4321.
Cessna 123 radar contact say intentions.
We'd like to get radar vectors to the ILS runway 36
Cessna 123 turn left heading 030, intercept the localizer, maintain 3000 until established, cleared for the ILS runway 36.
Land
No harm no foul.
That’s exactly what my CFII did with me one day. We no more than left the airport to head to the practice area for a pre-checkride review and the fog moved in. He called for a pop up clearance on the way back and let me fly the vectors, intercept the ILS and make my first instrument approach. We broke out about 800 or so feet AGL. It was fun and allowed me to see first hand what an instrument approach was like in actual IMC.
ABC center, Cessna 123 wondering if we could get a popup IFR?
Cessna 123 squawk 4321.
Cessna 123 radar contact say intentions.
We'd like to get radar vectors to the ILS runway 36
Cessna 123 turn left heading 030, intercept the localizer, maintain 3000 until established, cleared for the ILS runway 36.
Land
No harm no foul.
Instead the dumba$$ decided to scud run at 400' AGL and try and find the airport using google maps. In the process he broke the law and scared a student with 11 hours so bad that he quit flying. That instructor needs to be flipping burgers.
....No audio to hear the discussion....
Crazy.....who makes instructional videos with no sound?!?!??
No excuse. If that airport didn't have an approach, I'm sure there was one nearby that did. If he was incapable of flying an instrument approach, he should have gotten vectors to VFR. If he was afraid of icing he should have never been in the air. In my opinion, he was reckless and dangerous. He's lucky he didn't fly himself and his student 6' deep.I mean.. that's what I'd do but maybe that airport didn't have an operational ILS or any other approaches the airplane was capable of using? Or perhaps it had been so long since the instructor shot an approach that he didn't feel like he could?
Or, as I look at it again there's snow on the ground so it's clearly cold out. Maybe he's afraid of icing?
You ever depart VFR and then misplace the airport?
Crazy.....who makes instructional videos with no sound?!?!??
ABC center, Cessna 123 wondering if we could get a popup IFR?
Cessna 123 squawk 4321.
Cessna 123 radar contact say intentions.
We'd like to get radar vectors to the ILS runway 36
Cessna 123 turn left heading 030, intercept the localizer, maintain 3000 until established, cleared for the ILS runway 36.
Land
No harm no foul.
Instead the dumba$$ decided to scud run at 400' AGL and try and find the airport using google maps. In the process he broke the law and scared a student with 11 hours so bad that he quit flying. That instructor needs to be flipping burgers.
If he was afraid of icing he should have never been in the air.
Crazy.....who makes instructional videos with no sound?!?!??
From the reddit thread:
I have the audio from once we shutdown but I decided to edit it out to post it here.