You are flying along and your engine dies

EdFred said:
That is why you aren't the Most Interesting Pilot in the World. :D
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When was the last time you took off in fog so thick you couldn't see the instruments? ;)
 
Henning said:
Secure the dead engine and find an airport, preferably with maintenance facilities.
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Didn't you recently tell me that you were flying rental singles? What U talking about MAN!:hairraise:
 
I teach the ALARMS mental checklist for engine outs.

A- Airspeed to Best Glide
L- Landing Site
A- Attempt Restart (if ALT Allows)
R- Radios 121.5 or Unicom and 7700
M- Mayday Call
S- Secure (Everything off, Fuel Off, Door OPEN)

The landing site is what ever is below you that allows the best outcome. I WILL choose a lake if it seems to be the best outcome.

Eastern Arkansas is all fields but beware the tree rows and power lines. Western Arkansas is going to be trees and rocks unless I'm over a lake in a low wing. If the lake allows me a clean landing I'm going swimming.
 
ARFlyer said:
I teach the ALARMS mental checklist for engine outs.

A- Airspeed to Best Glide
L- Landing Site
A- Attempt Restart (if ALT Allows)
R- Radios 121.5 or Unicom and 7700
M- Mayday Call
S- Secure (Everything off, Fuel Off, Door OPEN)

The landing site is what ever is below you that allows the best outcome. I WILL choose a lake if it seems to be the best outcome.

Eastern Arkansas is all fields but beware the tree rows and power lines. Western Arkansas is going to be trees and rocks unless I'm over a lake in a low wing. If the lake allows me a clean landing I'm going swimming.
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I take issue with this. The human instinct is to deny tragedy is happening (engine quit). ABC works when C is communicate, not that other gobbledygook Bryan said. In an emergency, you should follow ABC THEN attempt a restart, but you've already let someone know to send the cavalry for you, increasing your chances of surviving your unintended stay on the ground.
 
Jaybird180 said:
I take issue with this. The human instinct is to deny tragedy is happening (engine quit). ABC works when C is communicate, not that other gobbledygook Bryan said. In an emergency, you should follow ABC THEN attempt a restart, but you've already let someone know to send the cavalry for you, increasing your chances of surviving your unintended stay on the ground.
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I've never heard of the ABC method. Which does make sense. I taught the above at my old school because it's in their FAA approved syllabus.
 
Considering the OP I thought ABC = (A)ctivate (B )RS '(C)hute.
 
Phoenix said:
Why you guys so set on crashing? Just climb in a thermal till you have glide to an airport. Y'all know how to do that right?:lol:
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Apparently I need more practice at this skill..
 

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Bill Watson said:
Looks like a fine dirt road job to me!
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Photo is deceptive, I actually landing in the grain field and stopped about 5 feet from the road. Photo was taken after I pushed the glider onto the road while waiting for my trailer.
 
SixPapaCharlie said:
You are not gliding distance to a field, you have no tundra tires and no God forsaken parachute.

You have to land this off field and lets say you are 2000 AGL
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2000 AGL and the engine dies? Pull the release and stay out of the tow pilot's way while he makes an emergency landing and I fly around for a couple of hours.
 
brcase said:
Photo is deceptive, I actually landing in the grain field and stopped about 5 feet from the road. Photo was taken after I pushed the glider onto the road while waiting for my trailer.
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A fine field landing then.

I found farm field roads pretty good bets, even if curved. You can generally see the surface well enough to miss potholes and such. On some irrigated fields they raise the road... Perfect.

You are having too much fun!
 
ARFlyer said:
I've never heard of the ABC method. Which does make sense. I taught the above at my old school because it's in their FAA approved syllabus.
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I assumed that you taught that because you preferred it over ABC. Didn't know you'd never heard of it.

A= Airspeed (trim for best glide)
B= Best Field
C= Communicate - Cockpit Check

Once established, attempt restart but take caution to not have a LOC (Loss of Control) incident trying to troubleshoot a failed engine.
 
asicer said:
Considering the OP I thought ABC = (A)ctivate (B )RS '(C)hute.
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Actually you may make fun but in the 22 we do have a very specialized checklist that can be used for any landing.

It is long but thorough:

Cirrus Landing Checklist A-Z
Airspeed
Best field
Consider CAPS
Deploy CAPS
Eat a begal
Float slowly down
Go Pro Ready
Hi five yourself this is how it's done
Instagram the landing process
Joke about making the BRS saves list
Keep calm this is going to be your best landing
Log book entry
Make a call to the insurance company. Congratulate them on their new Cirrus
Note how close you are going to end up near a runway that any other plane could have made
Open the doors
Peek outside
Quickly get back in so you don't get sucked out
Retreive a camera
Selfie Stick
Take lots of selfies
Update facebook
Visually determine where you are going to land
Watch the ground closely
Xamine the landing area
Yell at people below you to get out of the way. You have no control over this thing
Zima!
 
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Gubbins said:
With my luck it would probably go something like this:

Me: Ah, honey, the engine stopped if you didn't notice. Can you tighten your seatbelt and crack your door? Thanks.
Wife: What?! You told me that couldn't happen!
Me: Maybe tuck your head between your knees...
Wife: We should have got the Cirrus!!!!
Me: Ah, can we talk about this later? I'm kind of busy....
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Been, done that, got new pants upon landing ok. :eek:

Cheers
 
SixPapaCharlie said:
Actually you may make fun but in the 22 we do have a very specialized checklist that can be used for any landing.

It is long but thorough:

Cirrus Landing Checklist A-Z
Airspeed
Best field
Consider CAPS
Deploy CAPS
Eat a begal
Float slowly down
Go Pro Ready
Hi five yourself this is how it's done
Instagram the landing process
Joke about making the BRS saves list
Keep calm this is going to be your best landing
Log book entry
Make a call to the insurance company. Congratulate them on their new Cirrus
Note how close you are going to end up near a runway that any other plane could have made
Open the doors
Peek outside
Quickly get back in so you don't get sucked out
Retreive a camera
Selfie Stick
Take lots of selfies
Update facebook
Visually determine where you are going to land
Watch the ground closely
Xamine the landing area
Yell at people below you to get out of the way. You have no control over this thing
Zima!
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Now that is funny stuff :rofl:
 
When my crankshaft broke in half my only focus was getting the airplane down safely! I was not thinking about checklist and all the other crap! I know how to fly the plane so I flew it with no power and actually had the nicest landing ever in that airplane.
Some of you have seen this but here are pics of me 540 Eagle and my 2 piece crankshaft!
My buddy asked if I thought about bailing since I was wearing a chute. I never thought about jumping.
 

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Jaybird180 said:
Didn't you recently tell me that you were flying rental singles? What U talking about MAN!:hairraise:
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In that case I just glide into where ever looks good and slow down as much as I can at the bottom. As far as opening the door, if it doesn't cause too much drag or distraction, I would pop it, or going into water. On land it's not that big of a deal as in unpressurized planes windows kick out pretty easily.
 
I lost an engine once in a student's high-time (over TBO) Tomahawk. When it started to run rough & vibrate I told him to beeline to a nearby airport. It was actually just a crop dusters strip. At that point, the engine completely died.
When I told him to get on 112.9 & announce we were landing engine-out he thought I was joking. Sure enough, there was an inbound Cherokee who stated he would stay clear until we were down. I think he was more nervous than we were.
After we landed, we had to push the Tomahawk off the runway so the Cherokee could land. This was pre cell phone days so we walked a few miles to town & called my wife to send a plane to get us. I was an FBO at the time.
He finished his license in our 150 while his engine was replaced. I turned out to be pretty uneventful.
 
Lindberg said:
2000 AGL and the engine dies? Pull the release and stay out of the tow pilot's way while he makes an emergency landing and I fly around for a couple of hours.
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BTDT, didn't even know he had an engine failure until after I landed 2.5 hours later. Only the tow pilot had an out landing that day.

Brian
 
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I have had two different tow rope breaks while instructing in a L-23 does that kinda count as an engine failure?

The one at about 300' did get my immediate attention though!
 
Forget about the door, keep the nose down and don't stall it!

If you can remember, open it on short final. I'll probably forget.
 
pigpenracing said:
When my crankshaft broke in half my only focus was getting the airplane down safely! I was not thinking about checklist and all the other crap! I know how to fly the plane so I flew it with no power and actually had the nicest landing ever in that airplane.
Some of you have seen this but here are pics of me 540 Eagle and my 2 piece crankshaft!
My buddy asked if I thought about bailing since I was wearing a chute. I never thought about jumping.
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Holy Smokes!
 
saddletramp said:
I lost an engine once in a student's high-time (over TBO) Tomahawk. When it started to run rough & vibrate I told him to beeline to a nearby airport. It was actually just a crop dusters strip. At that point, the engine completely died.
When I told him to get on 112.9 & announce we were landing engine-out he thought I was joking. Sure enough, there was an inbound Cherokee who stated he would stay clear until we were down. I think he was more nervous than we were.
After we landed, we had to push the Tomahawk off the runway so the Cherokee could land. This was pre cell phone days so we walked a few miles to town & called my wife to send a plane to get us. I was an FBO at the time.
He finished his license in our 150 while his engine was replaced. I turned out to be pretty uneventful.
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112.9? 122.9 maybe? 112.9 might be a bit difficult to transmit on. :D
 
SixPapaCharlie said:
Actually you may make fun but in the 22 we do have a very specialized checklist that can be used for any landing.

It is long but thorough:

Cirrus Landing Checklist A-Z
Airspeed
Best field
Consider CAPS
Deploy CAPS
Eat a begal
Float slowly down
Go Pro Ready
Hi five yourself this is how it's done
Instagram the landing process
Joke about making the BRS saves list
Keep calm this is going to be your best landing
Log book entry
Make a call to the insurance company. Congratulate them on their new Cirrus
Note how close you are going to end up near a runway that any other plane could have made
Open the doors
Peek outside
Quickly get back in so you don't get sucked out
Retreive a camera
Selfie Stick
Take lots of selfies
Update facebook
Visually determine where you are going to land
Watch the ground closely
Xamine the landing area
Yell at people below you to get out of the way. You have no control over this thing
Zima!
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LMAO! Best thing I've read here all week.
 
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