Why no name for the Cessna 310?

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  1. saddletramp

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    With very few exceptions Cessna gave their various models a number & name too.

    172 Skyhawk
    182 Skylane
    206 Stationair
    210 Centurion
    337 Skymaster
    320 Skyknight
    421 Golden Eagle

    So why not the 310?
     
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    It was named after the 3:10 train to Yuma.:D
     
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    FWIW, Beech 18 has the same issue.
     
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    It's the "blue canoe"
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    Kevin’s would have been the Chickadee.
     
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    Affirmative. From our trip last month.
     
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    Nice museum...I think that was the only outdoor museum I've been to that I didn't feel sorry for the planes out in the weather...so dry a climate and all, but not ridiculous temps, etc. They all looked like they could have been started right up and flown for the most part...
     
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    That's what I did my initial Multi and Instrument rating in. The one I flew was a 1960 model (310E) so it had the swept tail. The one pictures is a little bit earlier model.
     
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    I thought it was called
    “SkyKing”
     
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    Because some mechanics wife told him to stop saying that word around the children....
     
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    That was actually a 320.
     
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    The irony of course being, the airplane they have in their actual ramp can't do that either..... :D
     
  14. Sinistar

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    Is Chancellor the 414 or 310?
     
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    For me those are both the No Chancellors
     
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    Actually even more

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    Are you sure about that? The 320 has 4 side windows where the 310 has two. I think Sky Kin'gs had two.
    Although the first one was a T-50.
     
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    It's been a long time since I watched an episode of Sky King. What I remember is a pre-1960 C-310 (straight tail). I'm not sure in what year the swept tail was introduced but it was prior to 1960.

    The C-320 was the SkyNight.
     
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    That's Skyknight
     
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    Yeah, you're probably right about that.
     
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    It's sometimes called an Aerobat.
    I don't think it's quite fair to include non-production prototypes.
     
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    Only the aerobatic version. The underpowered version, not so much.
     
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    152 - "Commuter"
    170 - "BusinessLiner"
    190 - "BusinessLiner"
     
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    According to Wikipedia, you're right: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky_King#Aircraft
     
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    The 150 was the Commuter, but the 152 remained unnamed, as far as I can tell.

    I trained primarily in a 152 and thought "SkyDuck," "SkyPigeon," or some equally slow bird might be fitting... :D
     
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    (in your reference to the 152)

    The Aerobat is a special, aerobatic version of the C-150 Commuter. I don't think Cessna made a aerobatic version of the 152. I would be happy to be wrong. From what I hear, the A-150 Aerobat is a basic, but fun and capable, aerobatic airplane.
     
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    Well technically "Skyhawk" is a trim level and only 172's so equipped are to be called that, if I remember @Pilawt 's previous explanations correctly.
    I seem to recall an aerobatic version of the 152.
     
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    The 172 was also the BusinessLiner. Most overused name they had. It didn't become the Skyhawk until late 1960.
    The 182 wasn't the Skylane until 1958.
     
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    Certain STC versions were given names but it was more for the conversion - Bearcat for was a good one for example. It's the first time they were able to do 300HP engines. That STC is still around. The Blue Canoe mentioned above is actually a Cessna name though and isn't a STC. It was never really marketed as the Blue Canoe to my knowledge. I can see why - that's not a very Sexy name.
     
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    Sounds more like an STD than an STC.
     
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    Another try. Mainly piston singles and twins. Some turbo props. stops before 500 series jets. Tried to leave out all prototypes and military only.

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    165 Airmaster
    170 Businessliner
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    172 Nothing or Businessliner? -> Skyhawk & Cutlass
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    T182 No Name --> Skylane
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    190 Businessliner
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    401 No Name --> Utiliner / Businesliner For latest model
    401 No Name --> Utiliner / Businesliner For latest model
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    414 Chancellor
    421 Golden Eagle
    425 Conquest I
    435 Conquest II
    441 Conquest II
     
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    The 1960 model was 310D (swept tail, original two-side-window pattern). 1961 model, with three side windows, was 310F. 310E was the military-only version (U-3B) built alongside the 310F. 310A was the earlier, straight-tail military model (U-3A). 310B and 310C were the civilian models for 1958 and 1959, respectively.

    The T-50 was used in the first 39 episodes. After that, it waa a 1958 model (built in late '57) 310B, the second production 310B off the line.

    The first swept-tail 310 was the 1960 model 310D, introduced in the fall of 1959.

    There was indeed an A152 Aerobat in the catalog through the end of 152 production in 1985.

    "Blue Canoe" was the nickname for the military U-3A (Model 310A), inspired by the attractive dark blue and white USAF paint scheme. The name was never used by Cessna in connection with civilian 310s.

    Early on, the equipment package levels on 150s were called "Standard", "Trainer" and "Commuter" (sometimes "Inter-City Commuter"). The "Commuter" name was never applied in Cessna advertising to the Model 150 in general until the last two years of production, 1976 and 1977.

    The Airmaster doesn't really belong in this list, because the pre-war nomenclature was different. In this instance, "C-165" referred to the engine horsepower.

    I'm not aware of any instance of "Businessliner" being applied to the 172. As noted earlier, "Skyhawk" was merely an equipment package introduced for the 1961 model year (172B). 1960s advertising offered the choice of "172" (the stripped-down base model) OR "Skyhawk". From 1975 onward, the "Skyhawk" name was applied to the base model as well, and the upscale equipment package became "Skyhawk II".

    (Cessna numerology was anything but consistent. Buyers likewise had the choice between a base 182 or deluxe "Skylane" from 1958 onward, and similarly with the later "177" or "Cardinal". But once the "Skylark" name was adopted for the 1960 model 175A, all 175s were "Skylarks" thereafter.)

    "Super Skylane" was applied only to the model P206-P206E (1965-70). The 205/210-5 (1963-64, 260 hp) never had a name.

    "Stationair" was not spelled with an 'e'.
     
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    That's what it was. A C-310E that was originally an Air Force U-3B. It was in an Air Force aero club.
     
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    Yes, the 172 was the base model and the Skyhawk with the "premium" trim level.

    Yes, there was an Aerobat 152.

     
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    I always heard it referred to as a Suck and Blow...

    Skymaster.jpg
     
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