when to not report meds?

Nova

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Over then years I have been on different meds for certain things... most of them I don't take anymore. How long after you stop taking the meds is it appropriate not to even mention it on the 8500-8 form? Always?? 90 days??
 
MauleSkinner said:
What is the verbiage of the question(s) that disclosing the meds would potentially answer?
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Asking someone to read the question (or worse, the instructions) is so unfair. Next you'll be suggesting reading regulations instead a someone's paraphrasing.
 
MauleSkinner said:
My apologies…very rude of me!
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Although, in fairness, the question was "how long after stopping" which can make "currently" a a funny word. I take Claritin for seasonal allergies. Is my answer different depending on whether I go to the AME in-season or out-of-season?
 
Webster defines currently as "at the present time".

To be conservative I'd use the FAA five times the dose interval. So a pill that lasts 24 hours I'd say 5 days.
 
midlifeflyer said:
Asking someone to read the question (or worse, the instructions) is so unfair. Next you'll be suggesting reading regulations instead a someone's paraphrasing.
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Obviously I'm asking what does the FAA consider 'currently'.. yea I read the form for F sakes. . If I stopped taking it only the day before I bet the fAA would consider my not being truthful if I didn't include it. If it was 90 days ago maybe not. THAT'S why I ask the question!
 
MauleSkinner said:
It’s not “obvious,” so maybe you should note that in your question, for F sakes.
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WTF would you think I'm asking every pilots thoughts? or perhaps somebody familiar with the actual process?
 
Let me put it this way ... it would seem reasonable if I haven't taken a med in 90 days it would be fair to NOT list it. But if anybody KNOWS this is not the case as far as the FAA is considered please let me know. If you DON'T know no need to respond.
 
Nova said:
Over then years I have been on different meds for certain things... most of them I don't take anymore. How long after you stop taking the meds is it appropriate not to even mention it on the 8500-8 form? Always?? 90 days??
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It is always appropriate to not mention a prescription you are not taking.
 
Nova said:
Let me put it this way ... it would seem reasonable if I haven't taken a med in 90 days it would be fair to NOT list it. But if anybody KNOWS this is not the case as far as the FAA is considered please let me know. If you DON'T know no need to respond.
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Seven.
 
Nova said:
WTF would you think I'm asking every pilots thoughts? or perhaps somebody familiar with the actual process?
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Including "over the years" in your premise, and "always" as a possible answer, suggests that you have a broader misunderstanding than just the meaning of "currently." And FWIW, if I stopped taking a medicine the day before I filled out the form and had no intention of restarting it (e.g., an antibiotic) I wouldn't feel the least bit deceptive in not disclosing it. On the other hand, drugs I take PRN with some regularity, I disclose if I've taken them recently and expect to take them again.
 
The issue here is not the med, but the underlying condition the medicine is treating. Stopping your heart medication a few days before the visit doesn’t mean you don’t have heart disease. Stopping depression meds doesn’t mean you’re no longer clinically depressed. So, without specifics, this question is kind of impossible to answer. As always, the best advice is to not fill out the 8500-8 and instead schedule an “advisory” meeting with the AME. Sure, you’ll pay twice, but at least you can avoid a denial or going through the lengthy SI process.
 
rhkennerly said:
The issue here is not the med, but the underlying condition the medicine is treating. Stopping your heart medication a few days before the visit doesn’t mean you don’t have heart disease. Stopping depression meds doesn’t mean you’re no longer clinically depressed. So, without specifics, this question is kind of impossible to answer. As always, the best advice is to not fill out the 8500-8 and instead schedule an “advisory” meeting with the AME. Sure, you’ll pay twice, but at least you can avoid a denial or going through the lengthy SI process.
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Thanks.. in my case I'm not trying to hide anything or be evasive.. I just don't take a medicine anymore and figure why complicated things by mentioning it. But I also wanted to make sure that wouldn't be considered being untruthful on the application because I stopped under a certain time frame or something.
 
Nova said:
Thanks.. in my case I'm not trying to hide anything or be evasive.. I just don't take a medicine anymore and figure why complicated things by mentioning it. But I also wanted to make sure that wouldn't be considered being untruthful on the application because I stopped under a certain time frame or something.
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It still boils down to the “why” of it. Some conditions are not waivable.
 
Nova said:
Thanks.. in my case I'm not trying to hide anything or be evasive.. I just don't take a medicine anymore and figure why complicated things by mentioning it. But I also wanted to make sure that wouldn't be considered being untruthful on the application because I stopped under a certain time frame or something.
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So no need to disclose the med as one you're currently taking, but you do need to disclose the condition you took it for.
 
Lindberg said:
So no need to disclose the med as one you're currently taking, but you do need to disclose the condition you took it for.
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Oh yea... NP there. Already had a phone consult. Doc said condition is not an issue. Just trying to get all my ducks in a row before I finalize my 8500-8 and schedule the FAA exam including knowing what meds to list.
 
Reading the instructions and answering the questions asked is critically important. Not providing information not asked for isn't being evasive, it's being accurate.

A few years ago, I had elbow surgery. I was prescribed some narcotic pain med. Later on, when I filmed it mesxpress, if I'd listed Oxycodone in my medication list, I would be have been denied. Probably super denied and wind up in HIMS. Because the FAA is going to assume you read the instructions and followed them.....
 
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