When flowcharts are too difficult to figure out...

I like it. About the only thing I'd like to see added would be hyperlinks for the FAR references.

And maybe to help pound this into the viewers noggin, a history of the choices they made. So the path toward "yes you can log" is better learned and ingrained.
 
Cool thingy!

It said I was 80% Miranda, and 20% Samantha. Based on my answer to the "sole manipulator of the controls" question... :) :)
 
My favorite flow chart has all the usual: "Did you mess with it?", works past "Did anyone see you?", and ends with "You're f****ed".

:D
 
I thought we agreed no more ‘can I log it’ threads?

BTW I’ll pass this on to Yoda.
 
There's actually a small POA Easter egg in there if you look close and you've been around while.
 
LearBaron?
 
Actually, most flowcharts I've seen make things more complicated than they are. I have one I use in my talks on the FAA enforcement process. It runs from initial inquiry to the federal courts. When I get to the screen, I describe it as a simplification and it always gets the intended laugh.
 
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@eman1200 - Is your laundry basket nose or tail wheel? Curious which "recency of experience" rule applies.

(ii) The required takeoffs and landings were performed in an aircraft of the same category, class, and type (if a type rating is required), and, if the aircraft to be flown is an airplane with a tailwheel, the takeoffs and landings must have been made to a full stop in an airplane with a tailwheel.
 
But can I log my Private Pilot checkride as PIC? It’s like Schrödinger’s cat, the examiner is there and not there at the same time.
 
JScarry said:
But can I log my Private Pilot checkride as PIC? It’s like Schrödinger’s cat, the examiner is there and not there at the same time.
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That's actually one of two exceptions that I'm going to address when I get some more time.
 
JScarry said:
But can I log my Private Pilot checkride as PIC? It’s like Schrödinger’s cat, the examiner is there and not there at the same time.
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If one really delves into it, one can come up with a pretty tortuous reading of the regs to justify it, but there really is no regulatory basis for it. It's simply an accepted convention to highlight the accomplishment. Schrödinger’s cat is as good an explanation as any. Come to think of it, it's better than most :D
 
rtk11 said:
So... this seems to bypass us light-and-sporty guys with the Sport Pilot certificate...
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For the most part yes because you sport pilot guys aren't going for any further ratings because well you can't until you upgrade to private.

And the sport pilot is more or less

Are you sole manipulator of the controls of, or alone in, a light sport aircraft?
 
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JScarry said:
But can I log my Private Pilot checkride as PIC? It’s like Schrödinger’s cat, the examiner is there and not there at the same time.
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I like the reference to theoretical physics. :D
 
EdFred said:
For the most part yes because you sport pilot guys aren't going for any further ratings because well you can't until you upgrade to private.

And the sport pilot is more or less

Are you sole manipulator of the controls of, or alone in, a light sport aircraft?
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...with the required category and class endorsements.
 
Alright, updated to expand on a few things, like when your 10 year old is flying the plane, or if you're rec or sport, or on a check ride. And yes even ATP - which some of you won't like the answer, but most should.
 
how 'bout making this gooder English: "You may log not PIC in this scenario."

unless maybe there's a new column in logbooks these days titled "not PIC"
 
Here is another.... -Skip
 

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eman1200 said:
how 'bout making this gooder English: "You may log not PIC in this scenario."

unless maybe there's a new column in logbooks these days titled "not PIC"
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It was late when I wrote it. Fixed.
 
OP, if you are having trouble understanding when you can log PIC, I think there is a sticky thread that may help you. You can always use the search function.
 
PPC1052 said:
OP, if you are having trouble understanding when you can log PIC, I think there is a sticky thread that may help you. You can always use the search function.
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Error: Circular reference. (see the note at the bottom of the page) :D
 
EdFred said:
Alright, updated to expand on a few things, like when your 10 year old is flying the plane, or if you're rec or sport, or on a check ride. And yes even ATP - which some of you won't like the answer, but most should.
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I laughed. I love it! The ATP part.
 
EdFred said:
Error: Circular reference. (see the note at the bottom of the page) :D
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I just like the fact that now there is a sticky with an animated avatar of a dog drinking from a toilet bowl that is permanently affixed at the top of the Flight Following forum.
 
LearBaron: Because a pressurized piston twin with fairly docile handling characteristics capable of ~200 KTAS and FL250 is actually the same thing as a jet known for having zero tolerance for stupidity capable of ~450 KTAS and FL410.
 
texasclouds said:
You program just told me a student pilot could not log pic. Is that correct?
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Depends on the situation. Students can only log PIC when solo (or on their check ride). What answers did you give to which questions?
 
EdFred said:
Depends on the situation. Students can only log PIC when solo (or on their check ride). What answers did you give to which questions?
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Well it says yes on my computer (solo). Maybe I messed up when i tried it on my phone! Sorry!
 
texasclouds said:
Well it says yes on my computer (solo). Maybe I messed up when i tried it on my phone! Sorry!
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Probably fat fingered the yes/no. I did the same on my phone. Putting the phone in landscape seems to help.
 
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