What does this notam mean?

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  1. Skid

    Skid Pre-takeoff checklist

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    This came under the “Closed/Unsafe Conditions” category and just want to be sure I understand what it’s saying:

    RWY 28 CLSD TO PLA AND LDG 1710251346-PERM

    So it’s saying runway closed to low approach and landing, but what exactly is that?
     
  2. iamtheari

    iamtheari Line Up and Wait

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    Sounds like the runway is only for takeoffs.
     
  3. midlifeflyer

    midlifeflyer Final Approach

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    Are you asking what a practice low approach and landing are?
     
  4. Skid

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    I think so. Can I make a high approach? Can I use that runway if it’s not practice?
     
  5. timwinters

    timwinters Touchdown! Greaser! PoA Supporter

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    Sounds like they don't want anyone practicing there. Really? Is that even "legal"? (If a publicly funded airport)

    What airport is this? If within a couple of hours of me I'll go shoot a bunch of approaches...being the anti-authority personality that I am! :)
     
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    mscard88 Touchdown! Greaser!

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    Actually it says PLA, closed to practice low approach, and LDG, landings. And it's permanent (PERM).
     
  7. midlifeflyer

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    Yep. I think he's reading it a prohibiting a maneuver called "practice low approach and landing," rather than prohibiting (a) practice low approaches and (b) landings on that runway.
     
  8. Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe

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    It means that you can't do 3D printing on the runway using the common PLA (Polylactic Acid) plastic.
     
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    You want to tell us what airport this is? Maybe there's an obstruction on the approach end?
     
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    HAPPYDAN Filing Flight Plan

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    Permanent noise abatement procedure? Pretty common now around congested Puget Sound.
     
  12. flyingron

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    Takeoffs would be noisier.

    The FAA has some odd ideas on landing approaches. I flew into 02C and asked why it was that their threshold on Runway 3 was displaced almost half the length of the pavement. They said the FAA didn't like some of the obstructions and mandated they do that.
     
  13. midlifeflyer

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    Looking at this nontowered airport in Google Maps, I'm wondering whether it is due to problems or concerns with traffic converging for the two runways and the patterns running into each other. So they close the shorter runway for landings where they converge. For takeoffs they diverge.
     
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    Google images show a stand of trees then a densely-packed trailer community just east of the runway.
     
  15. Skid

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    Yep the airport is KAVO. Really quiet place, landed on runway 5 so it was a non issue. Didn’t notice any obstructions on takeoff but the runway was 5k+ feet so plenty of space. You might be right about the patterns midlifeflyer; and yea I did think it was one maneuver instead of two statements d’oh :confused:
     
  16. Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe

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    Punctuation saves lives.
    But, there is no comma in Morse code, so wat'cha gonna do?
    Time to eat grandma.
     
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  17. Axtel4

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    dah-dah-di-di-dah-dah
     
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  18. denverpilot

    denverpilot Taxi to Parking

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    Seems silly. It’s uncontrolled, and people have to think about things. Gasp. The horrors.