What aircraft are required to have "black" boxes?

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I see that the Philadelphia Lear had one. What kind? Cockpit voice recorder? Something else?

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91.609 is the basic regulatory reference, and will probably be mirrored in Parts 135 and 121…
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(1) No person may operate a U.S. civil registered, multiengine, turbine-powered airplane or rotorcraft having a passenger seating configuration, excluding any pilot seats of 10 or more that has been manufactured after October 11, 1991, unless it is equipped with one or more approved flight recorders that utilize a digital method of recording and storing data and a method of readily retrieving that data from the storage medium, that are capable of recording the data specified in appendix E to this part, for an airplane, or appendix F to this part, for a rotorcraft, of this part within the range, accuracy, and recording interval specified, and that are capable of retaining no less than 8 hours of aircraft operation.
(2) All airplanes subject to paragraph (c)(1) of this section that are manufactured before April 7, 2010, by April 7, 2012, must meet the requirements of § 23.1459(a)(7) or § 25.1459(a)(8) of this chapter, as applicable.
(3) All airplanes and rotorcraft subject to paragraph (c)(1) of this section that are manufactured on or after April 7, 2010, must meet the flight data recorder requirements of § 23.1459, § 25.1459, § 27.1459, or § 29.1459 of this chapter, as applicable, and retain at least the last 25 hours of recorded information using a recorder that meets the standards of TSO-C124a, or later revision.
(d) Whenever a flight recorder, required by this section, is installed, it must be operated continuously from the instant the airplane begins the takeoff roll or the rotorcraft begins lift-off until the airplane has completed the landing roll or the rotorcraft has landed at its destination.
(e) Unless otherwise authorized by the Administrator, after October 11, 1991, no person may operate a U.S. civil registered multiengine, turbine-powered airplane or rotorcraft having a passenger seating configuration of six passengers or more and for which two pilots are required by type certification or operating rule unless it is equipped with an approved cockpit voice recorder that:

(1) Is installed in compliance with § 23.1457(a)(1) and (2), (b), (c), (d)(1)(i), (2) and (3), (e), (f), and (g); § 25.1457(a)(1) and (2), (b), (c), (d)(1)(i), (2) and (3), (e), (f), and (g); § 27.1457(a)(1) and (2), (b), (c), (d)(1)(i), (2) and (3), (e), (f), and (g); or § 29.1457(a)(1) and (2), (b), (c), (d)(1)(i), (2) and (3), (e), (f), and (g) of this chapter, as applicable; and
(2) Is operated continuously from the use of the checklist before the flight to completion of the final checklist at the end of the flight.
 
Not me, I just have box lunches in the BC.
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Do you want the roast beef wrap or the Soppressata?
 
91.609 is the basic regulatory reference, and will probably be mirrored in Parts 135 and 121…
Part 121: 121.343-121.346 for FDRs, and 121.359 for CVRs. Part 121 Appendix B lists the specifications for what must be recorded.

Part 135: 135.151 for CVRs, 135.152 for FDRs. Specs in appendices B-E.
 
Technically, no aircraft is required to have a black box. They are required to be orange or yellow.
 
Why don't they make the entire airplane out of the material they use for the black boxes? That way it won't get damaged in a crash.
 
Why don't they make the entire airplane out of the material they use for the black boxes? That way it won't get damaged in a crash.
For the same reason we drive on parkways and park in driveways, and can't say seven words on television - one of which doesn't even belong.
 
Keep in mind, the Lear 55 was of Mexican registration. While they are still required to comply with US regs when operating the United States, they may have a whole different set of guidelines for their operations including crew qualifications.
 
Keep in mind, the Lear 55 was of Mexican registration. While they are still required to comply with US regs when operating the United States, they may have a whole different set of guidelines for their operations including crew qualifications.
Generally speaking, they mirror U.S. requirements.
 
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