Visual Approaches

[midlifeflyer]

I’m thinking most pilots draw a blank on this one.

91.129(e)(2)

I suspect it never came up in the training of most pilots who don’t fly large or turbine aircraft. Skipped over on the way to (e)(3).

 

[MauleSkinner]

I suspect it never came up in the training of most pilots who don’t fly large or turbine aircraft. Skipped over on the way to (e)(3).

And skipped again by pilots flying large and turbine aircraft on the way to Subpart F.

 

[luvflyin]

And skipped again by pilots flying large and turbine aircraft on the way to Subpart F.

That covers “… turbojet-powered multiengine civil airplanes…”
That’s a little different than the “And for those flying turbine airplanes into tower-controlled airports, that guidance largely reflects regulatory requirements” you started this with.

 

[MauleSkinner]

That covers “… turbojet-powered multiengine civil airplanes…”
That’s a little different than the “And for those flying turbine airplanes into tower-controlled airports, that guidance largely reflects regulatory requirements” you started this with.

Whatever. Since your sole goal is to argue, you can do that with someone else.

 

[dmspilot]

Oddly enough, if your towered airport grows a TRACON, TRSAs notwithstanding, it no longer applies, since 91.129 is "Operations in Class D airspace". And there doesn't seem to be a mirror reg in 91.130 (C ops) or 91.131 (B ops). Weird.

Try 91.130(a) and 91.131(a)

 

[midlifeflyer]

Oddly enough, if your towered airport grows a TRACON, TRSAs notwithstanding, it no longer applies, since 91.129 is "Operations in Class D airspace". And there doesn't seem to be a mirror reg in 91.130 (C ops) or 91.131 (B ops). Weird.

If that were true, it would definitely be weird. But as @dmspilot pointed out…

 

[luvflyin]

Oddly enough, if your towered airport grows a TRACON, TRSAs notwithstanding, it no longer applies, since 91.129 is "Operations in Class D airspace". And there doesn't seem to be a mirror reg in 91.130 (C ops) or 91.131 (B ops). Weird.

I can see the logic in 131 skipping over 130 when referring back to 129 (which in turn refers to back to 126 and 127.) B’s and C’s have contradicting rules about communication and clearance requirements. It would muddy the waters to say when in a B, you must also do what you do in a C.

 

[flyingcheesehead]

Try 91.130(a) and 91.131(a)

If that were true, it would definitely be weird. But as @dmspilot pointed out…

Yep, I guess I'm still impatient. And I was looking for the "minimum altitudes in class X" and missed the "All of the above, plus..."