Vision jet goes for a swim

[luvflyin]

Two VJ incidences in one week. Our insurance underwriters are updating their rates upward as we read this thread.

What’s the other one?

 

[FastEddieB]

Skycatcher and Pipersport.

Also I don't remember if the Cessna (Columbia) 400 had a steering linkage or not.

Yes, many modern Light Sports have chosen free castoring nose gear. The Skycatcher was a clean sheet design, and the Pipersport was a rebadged Czech Light Sport. I was thinking more of the legacy aircraft, the vast majority having steerable nose gear.

Pretty sure the Columbia/Cessna 400’s were free castoring as well.

In any case, it’s not rare, nor an indicator of poor design.

 

[FastEddieB]

One recommendation I have seen advocated on the Lancair forum is to test the brakes prior to touchdown. Doing this may give an indication of unilateral brake failure before directional control is lost on the ground.

Checking the brakes is on the very short pre-landing checklist on my Sky Arrow, along with boost pump on and seat belts fastened. The idea is that if one of the brakes has no pressure, you can seek out a long, wide runway if your home base or destination has a short and/or narrow runway. At normal landing and rollout speeds the rudder does a pretty good job of steering down to walking speeds.

 

[asicer]

Yes, many modern Light Sports have chosen free castoring nose gear. The Skycatcher was a clean sheet design, and the Pipersport was a rebadged Czech Light Sport.

Yeah, I cheated a little bit on the Pipersport

But it’s not just LSA, but modern designs in general. Look at the Tecnam P2010 and the various Diamonds.

 

[MFE]

"under water" on the note, needed a "bailout"?

 

[TCABM]

This is a jet. With a v tail.

So you’re saying Textron parts pricing is in effect?

 

[iamtheari]

Yeah, I cheated a little bit on the Pipersport

But it’s not just LSA, but modern designs in general. Look at the Tecnam P2010 and the various Diamonds.

I wonder what fraction of GA tricycle designs below 12,500 lbs that were designed after, say, 1965 are free-castering. Van’s “A” models, Cirrus, etc.

 

[Kenny Phillips]

This is a jet. With a v tail.

I meant (obviously) with a castering nose wheel.
But there are hundreds of SF50s, in any case.

 

[donjohnston]

All Velocity's are free castering nose wheels. I started designing a steerable nose gear for mine but gave up.

I had a similar event with mine while on rollout from landing. Right brake failed and the plane gradually went off the left side of the runway. Missed the the lights and ended up in the grass.

 

[kkoran]

In addition to the parachute, maybe they should be equipped with pop-out floats.

 

[Pinecone]

I wonder what fraction of GA tricycle designs below 12,500 lbs that were designed after, say, 1965 are free-castering. Van’s “A” models, Cirrus, etc.

American Aviation/Grumman/Gulfstream singles all do.

AA-1 and -5 series.

 

[Plano Pilot]

Does the SF50 have any kind of emergency braking system? The jets I have flown had one or two hydraulic systems going to the brakes or you could release nitrogen into a single brake system. Turboprops you could use reverse.

 

[Kritchlow]

Best one… go to about 3 minutes in…

 

[Kent Wien]

“Who’s the U-Boat commander?”

 

[StraightnLevel]

Best one… go to about 3 minutes in…

I didn't realize that there was a seaplane option available for the Citation.

 

[Jim_R]

I didn't realize that there was a seaplane option available for the Citation.

Yeah, but it's really expensive, and you can only use it once.

 

[luvflyin]

Best one… go to about 3 minutes in…

Seems I remember another one like that. I think it was a Hawker.

 

[Spinka]

The Citation guy had a sense of humor, his next Citation was registered, OY-WET.