Has anyone ever seen gear get lodged like this before?
http://www.thedrive.com/news/26754/...-maine-rips-off-landing-gear-in-crash-landing
http://www.thedrive.com/news/26754/...-maine-rips-off-landing-gear-in-crash-landing
Operating as "United Express"Commutair not United
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Operating as "United Express"
Says United on the side has a United flight number and United prints their name on the tickets. If the company didn't want to get lumped in with their ill behaved stepchildren, they shouldn't claim them as theirs when the times are good.
And? It means it was contracted by United, it wasn’t United...
1) ill behaved, really? This was an accident and we don’t know any more today.
2) if you knew more about the industry you’d realize it’s separate management separate equipment separate rules, procedures, training, checklists, maintenance, employees, pilots, everything. Nothing in common but the marketing and ticketing. They share a paint job and a ticket which is absolutely meaningless from the how an airplane is operated standpoint. There are regionals that fly for all three majors as well all on the same day...
Nit picky much? What difference does it make as to who operated the flight? Seems irrelevant in this situation, as the same result still occurred.
It’s Commutair DBA United Express...what’s your point? I’m not seeing how that’s relevant to the accident situation.No, it’s entirely relevant, it’s a separate company.
It’s Commutair DBA United Express...what’s your point? I’m not seeing how that’s relevant to the accident situation.
...and if United wanted to make a distinction to the general public, they'd make it such that the distinction was visible to the general public.The fact is your both right. To us in the industry it makes a big difference, but to the general public it doesn't, if united is painted on the side it's united to them.
"Derailed" is trains...this is aviation.If anyone ever asks what it means when a thread is "derailed", I'll send them here.
They share a paint job...
"Derailed" is trains...this is aviation.
Regional airlines are not real airlines. They are glorified leasing companies. Their management are very one dimensional and hang on puppet strings from their mainline masters.
The aircraft wasn’t on United’s operating certificate but united owns it morally and ethically in my opinion.
Yeah, but I doubt it was under control when it contacted the runway.So in other words you're saying this thread ran off the runway?
outa here again?
outa here again?
I have worked for two regional airlines and one airline that was independent and maintained its own direct relationship with the consumer. It’s fundamentally different. So to be blunt I’ve been on both sides of that model and regional airlines are not real airlines. Their management are not capable of running a true airline. You want real life evidence to support my position?And you know this how??? Who has operational control? Who does the training? Who flies the planes? You’ve no clue.
Ticket said “Operated by Commutair”
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I hate it when "they" control us.So just when you thought you were out, they pulled you back in?
So we have an interesting crash landing with the landing gear somehow ending up in the engine intake and you chuckleheads are arguing paint semantics. I know I know, welcome to POA?
I have worked for two regional airlines and one airline that was independent and maintained its own direct relationship with the consumer. It’s fundamentally different. So to be blunt I’ve been on both sides of that model and regional airlines are not real airlines. Their management are not capable of running a true airline. You want real life evidence to support my position?
Ask anyone that was on property when Brian Bedford got his hands on Mokulele Airlines, Frontier Airlines and Midwest Express.
I was there and it was a complete **** show.
Edit.
I’m done too. It’s obvious we don’t agree and neither one of us are changing our minds which is fine.
maybe you shoulda' said so in the first place...This was not a flight operated by United.
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You're WRONG!What exactly is everyone disagreeing about?