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Hi everyone, and specially AME Or doctors here… what happens with tinnitus + hearing loss with a class 1 ?
bbchien
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if you can still hear, (pass the 6 ' voice check either with or without nearing amplification, and DO NOT REQUIRE medication, what happens is......NOTHING different 
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I see… so FAA do allow the use of hearing aid for pilots. Is it only US FAA or ICAO ? I fly in another country and not sure if wearing hearing aid is allowed… I find no trouble when flying, do wear Bose A20 instead of telex for better noise cancelling and preserving my hearing, which is a little below in 2000 and 3000 limits.
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I have tinnitus and a 1st class medical. I suspect a lot of pilots do.
Checkout_my_Six
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I have mild tinnitus and a hearing loss.....No problem. I took out my hearing aids for the visit....and was able to hear and there were no issues. In a quiet room conversation is easy....
Ditto... It was never a problem on my medical over the years. In fact, while I have hearing aids now, I likely could have passed the 6' test without them, but my AME was lazy and just put the MUST USE AMPLIFICATION restriction rather than testing me without them. It's one of the stupider restrictions (at least for light plane pilots). Headphones ARE amplification and I always fly with them anyhow.
JOhnH
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He didn't say "hearing aids" though, did he?
Sounds like you are covered.
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Thank you all guys for sharing your issues with it, in my country I’m not positive that “must use amplification” is an option..
Do any of the docs here know, if that is only FAA (using amplification or hearing aids if you are below the limits in a audiometry…or is ICAO worldwide?
Do any of the docs here know, if that is only FAA (using amplification or hearing aids if you are below the limits in a audiometry…or is ICAO worldwide?
Of course not, the FAA has precise wordings for the limitations.
Which is why I think it's sort of a lame restriction and why I didn't bother going to get it removed.
There are three ways to pass the US hearing test. THe absolute most commonly used one is the stand six feet behind the patient and see if he can understand you.
If not that, then a normal audiometric test at a half a dozen frequencies in each ear.
If not that, then a formal spoken word audiometry test.
BUt you would have to research whatever is the standard in your unnamed country. What the US does is irrelevant if you need a foreign certificate.
ICAO does NOT issue or mandate reciprocity with medical standards. It's up for each local regulatory body.
Both the UK and EASA (Europe) use the same audiometry test (no worse than 35db loss at 500, 1000, 2000 or 50 at 2000 Hz). They will permit suitable hearing aids with certain conditions.
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BillTIZ
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I have "undiagnosed" tinnitus, but I know it's there. I don't always hear it, very high pitched. On one of my last AF Medicals in the sound booth pushing buttons, tt was disclosed that I had a hearing loss way up in the ultra high frequencies in the range the AF did not care about.
I've never had a problem hearing the AME's "whisper" with his back turned towards me.
I've never had a problem hearing the AME's "whisper" with his back turned towards me.
Everybody of a certain age has a high frequency hearing loss. It's the first thing to go. I remember as a teen being able to hear the "not quiet ultrasonic" alarm systems in a lot of places (the First Ladies' gown exhibit a the Smithsonian was a prime example). That went a away by the time I was through with college.
MauleSkinner
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The whisper test went away 30 years or so ago…my AME told me it had to do with the requirement to be able to hear the wind in the wires so you’d know your airspeed.
WHAT???
