Tijuana Approach

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Looks like just about the entire approach for runway 9 is in US airspace. Does Socal run the approaches into there or is there an agreement to let TJ approach handle them?
 
Groundpounder said:
Looks like just about the entire approach for runway 9 is in US airspace. Does Socal run the approaches into there or is there an agreement to let TJ approach handle them?
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Pretty sure Tijuana does it. It would require coordination. Maybe just making a Point Out to Socal or maybe a piece of sky is delegated to TJ. I've done a lot of flying around there. A whole lot, like hundreds and hundreds of hours. I have never heard Approach working an airplane into TIJ
 
Our approach for 4 at KELP is largely over Juarez; elp app handles it.
 
luvflyin said:
Pretty sure Tijuana does it. It would require coordination. Maybe just making a Point Out to Socal or maybe a piece of sky is delegated to TJ. I've done a lot of flying around there. A whole lot, like hundreds and hundreds of hours. I have never heard Approach working an airplane into TIJ
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Ok, thanks.
 
Countries have agreements for such border situations. We frequency fly across southern Canada talking to Cleveland Center on flights between Chicago and the NY airports. The boundary between CLE and Toronto centers is different at different altitudes.
 
Larry in TN said:
Countries have agreements for such border situations. We frequency fly across southern Canada talking to Cleveland Center on flights between Chicago and the NY airports. The boundary between CLE and Toronto centers is different at different altitudes.
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Yep - In various flights over southern Ontario at many different altitudes, I've talked to Cleveland Center, Toronto Center, and Toronto Approach.

Similarly, Miami Center runs most of the Caribbean airspace.
 
Larry in TN said:
Countries have agreements for such border situations. We frequency fly across southern Canada talking to Cleveland Center on flights between Chicago and the NY airports. The boundary between CLE and Toronto centers is different at different altitudes.
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Yeah, and down on the surface to. Detroit Approach runs Windsor CYQG. Victoria Approach runs Bellingham KBLI.
 
Let'sgoflying! said:
Our approach for 4 at KELP is largely over Juarez; elp app handles it.
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Conversely, my last approach into Juarez was handled by ELP, handed off directly to Juarez tower.

Then had a little kerflubble with Juarez and took off at night without permission, no clearance, no nothing… just announcing intentions on tower as if it were a ctaf, and switched directly to ELP approach.

We did this as an emergency aircraft, I did call elp approach on the ground down there and let them know I’d be coming. They were fine with that and honestly didn’t seem the least bit surprised by it!!
 
Tools said:
Conversely, my last approach into Juarez was handled by ELP, handed off directly to Juarez tower.

Then had a little kerflubble with Juarez and took off at night without permission, no clearance, no nothing… just announcing intentions on tower as if it were a ctaf, and switched directly to ELP approach.

We did this as an emergency aircraft, I did call elp approach on the ground down there and let them know I’d be coming. They were fine with that and honestly didn’t seem the least bit surprised by it!!
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Maybe you shouldn't go to Juarez again in that plane.
 
Tools said:
Conversely, my last approach into Juarez was handled by ELP, handed off directly to Juarez tower.

Then had a little kerflubble with Juarez and took off at night without permission, no clearance, no nothing… just announcing intentions on tower as if it were a ctaf, and switched directly to ELP approach.

We did this as an emergency aircraft, I did call elp approach on the ground down there and let them know I’d be coming. They were fine with that and honestly didn’t seem the least bit surprised by it!!
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Wait. You had an emergency takeoff?
 
I was in a MD-80… if there was, I didn’t notice him!

They cancelled our clearance and said the “authorities” wanted us to stay… we didn’t want to stay. They originally lied to us saying our company wanted us to stay.

Barking at us the whole way, “you do not have permission…”

Us: what ev, Juarez traffic…

Took some silver tonguing, but we were originally just gonna blast off a taxiway! I REALLY wanted to do that!

@flyingcheesehead the emergency was fear for our personal safety.
 
Tools said:
I was in a MD-80… if there was, I didn’t notice him!

They cancelled our clearance and said the “authorities” wanted us to stay… we didn’t want to stay. They originally lied to us saying our company wanted us to stay.

Barking at us the whole way, “you do not have permission…”

Us: what ev, Juarez traffic…

Took some silver tonguing, but we were originally just gonna blast off a taxiway! I REALLY wanted to do that!

@flyingcheesehead the emergency was fear for our personal safety.
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Did it have anything to do with acquiring a pen lathe?
 
Tools said:
@flyingcheesehead the emergency was fear for our personal safety.
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That's the most important kind of emergency.

Back in the 90's, an acquaintance of mine who worked as a consultant for GE power systems was telling us about his latest overseas projects, where he was escorted around Pakistan by a couple of guys in a jeep, complete with pintle mounted machine gun. He spent a lot of time in less than desirable areas, sometimes that were repairing damage from some sort of conflict. So out of curiosity I asked him which country he felt most at risk in. Without even a blink of delay, he said "Mexico. You can't tell who you can trust."
 
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