[This is not aviation related] Salsa vs. Hot sauce

Discussion in 'Hangar Talk' started by SixPapaCharlie, Jun 6, 2022.

  1. SixPapaCharlie

    SixPapaCharlie May the force be with you

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2013
    Messages:
    15,370

    Display name:
    Sixer
    So I have a friend. Let's call him @eman1200 just to protect his identity.
    This guy and I both grow a lot of peppers . He is growing about 1,500 X more peppers than I am and we frequently compare notes.

    There is always this bit of confusion where I will use the term "hot sauce" and he will virtually nod knowingly but it turns out we are both thinking of something different.

    In my part of the world "hot sauce" and "salsa" can be used interchangeably.
    The waiter will say "Ya want some chips and hot sauce?" and we all know they aren't going to bring us tortilla chips and a bowl of tabasco. They bring salsa.

    I get that hot sauce means something very specific to some people but I assumed the interchangeability of the 2 words was universal. Hot sauce can mean salsa but salsa can never mean hot sauce.

    In my head these 2 things are hot sauce (but only the 2nd can be called salsa)
    hs4.jpg

    smhs4.jpg



    Also for the record, I have been to Mexico and they call this "salsa" This is NOT "Salsa".
    This is Pico da Gallo

    smsmhs4.jpg



    In your land, when you hear hot sauce, is it strictly reserved for the thin tabasco type sauce or is it a generic term for all things which one might dip a chip into?

    Also if I put "Salsa" into a blender and turned it on for 2 hours, does the salsa become hot sauce. Is the only real identifying characteristic, the viscosity?

    Lastly, my friend may need some suggestions for storing peppers for the next handful of years.
     
  2. eman1200

    eman1200 Touchdown! Greaser! PoA Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2013
    Messages:
    16,512
    Location:
    Oakland, CA

    Display name:
    Bro do you even lift
    I had nevereverever heard the term hot sauce used for salsa until I heard u say it. also, I have nevereverever gone to the hot sauce section of a supermarket and seen salsa. does salsa have any form of vinegar in it? all hot sauces I've ever had have been smooth. might have been thick, but mostly smooth, while salsa is chunky and far less blended, if blended at all. any mexican restaurant I've ever been to ask if u want chips and salsa, and bring out, surprisingly, salsa.
     
    CJones, Whitney, Salty and 4 others like this.
  3. luvflyin

    luvflyin Touchdown! Greaser!

    Joined:
    May 8, 2015
    Messages:
    13,791
    Location:
    Vancouver, WA

    Display name:
    Luvflyin
    "....In my part of the world "hot sauce" and "salsa" can be used interchangeably...."
    Maybe you should move. What color is the sky there?
     
    CJones, Lindberg, tyndall and 2 others like this.
  4. Zeldman

    Zeldman Touchdown! Greaser!

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2014
    Messages:
    15,469
    Location:
    high desert NM

    Display name:
    Billy
    People say ''Salsa'' because it is fun to say ''Salsa''....

    Actually, in my area, what is normally called salsa is called fiesta mix... but only by the old folks.
     
  5. RyanShort1

    RyanShort1 En-Route

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2010
    Messages:
    4,505
    Location:
    Dallas, Texas

    Display name:
    RyanShort1
    There are a LOT of people from a lot of different backgrounds in Texas.

    When I think of hot sauce, I think there can be a very wide variety, but it's usually highly blended... or Tabasco / Louisiana style.
    Salsa is usually tomato based (unless it's green salsa) and has chunks, but is NOT Pico da Gallo
    And people who make "Pico da Gallo" without peppers are frauds, but fresh Pico da Gallo is very good.
     
    Lindberg likes this.
  6. Dave Theisen

    Dave Theisen En-Route PoA Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2005
    Messages:
    4,321
    Location:
    Marietta, GA

    Display name:
    Dave Theisen
    Have to admit that I’m in the @eman1200 camp here. I’ve never heard salsa referred to as hot sauce.
     
    Whitney and Jim K like this.
  7. Mtns2Skies

    Mtns2Skies Final Approach

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2008
    Messages:
    5,180
    Location:
    Wisconsin

    Display name:
    Mtns2Skies
    To be clear... it pains me to say this... like a lot... but @eman1200 is right.

    ugh there I said it.
    :vomit::vomit::vomit::vomit:
     
    JOhnH, Whitney and Jim K like this.
  8. Jim K

    Jim K En-Route

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2019
    Messages:
    3,478
    Location:
    CMI

    Display name:
    Insert cool name here
    Yes.

    I would say chunks are the defining factor. Also hot sauce tends to be just vinegar and peppers, whereas salsa has tomatoes and onions.
     
    Racerx and Pugs like this.
  9. luvflyin

    luvflyin Touchdown! Greaser!

    Joined:
    May 8, 2015
    Messages:
    13,791
    Location:
    Vancouver, WA

    Display name:
    Luvflyin
    I'm resisting the urge to say Picante lest this go nuclear. Oh gee, resistance was futile
     
    Whitney and RyanShort1 like this.
  10. SixPapaCharlie

    SixPapaCharlie May the force be with you

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2013
    Messages:
    15,370

    Display name:
    Sixer
    No. @eman1200 was just a hypothetical name I chose out of thin air.
     
    Whitney, eman1200 and Dave Theisen like this.
  11. SixPapaCharlie

    SixPapaCharlie May the force be with you

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2013
    Messages:
    15,370

    Display name:
    Sixer
    That is reserved for Pace in my world which is the Radio Shak of hot sauces (salsas). I dont know why it is so prolific. It is crap and we deserve better!
     
  12. RyanShort1

    RyanShort1 En-Route

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2010
    Messages:
    4,505
    Location:
    Dallas, Texas

    Display name:
    RyanShort1
    It's been #$%& ever since they took it out of San Antonio... just sayin'
    It used to be the best.
     
    Zeldman likes this.
  13. luvflyin

    luvflyin Touchdown! Greaser!

    Joined:
    May 8, 2015
    Messages:
    13,791
    Location:
    Vancouver, WA

    Display name:
    Luvflyin
    Enter coordinates [6pc]. Enter launch code. T minus 10 and counting, 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 ENTER
     
  14. eman1200

    eman1200 Touchdown! Greaser! PoA Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2013
    Messages:
    16,512
    Location:
    Oakland, CA

    Display name:
    Bro do you even lift
    just make this a sticky already and be done with it, sheesh.
     
  15. luvflyin

    luvflyin Touchdown! Greaser!

    Joined:
    May 8, 2015
    Messages:
    13,791
    Location:
    Vancouver, WA

    Display name:
    Luvflyin
    And put in the Mishaps forum
     
    Jim K and eman1200 like this.
  16. SixPapaCharlie

    SixPapaCharlie May the force be with you

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2013
    Messages:
    15,370

    Display name:
    Sixer
    @OkieFlyer What say you?
    Wonder if it is an Oklahoma thing. We started using the term "hot sauce" when ordering chips and hot sauce at El Chico in Yukon OK as a kid.
     
  17. flyingron

    flyingron Touchdown! Greaser! PoA Supporter

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2007
    Messages:
    22,476
    Location:
    Catawba, NC

    Display name:
    FlyingRon
    Salsa is the Spanish word for sauce.

    In the US, salsa usually implies some veggies in it (typically tomatoes), but if you're south of the border somewhere, you may just get some sort of sauce be it hot sauce or a fancy ketchup like Lizano (the universal Costa Rican condiment).
     
  18. RyanB

    RyanB Super Administrator Management Council Member PoA Supporter

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2010
    Messages:
    14,989
    Location:
    Chattanooga, TN

    Display name:
    Ryan
    Oh ya, Pace sucks. Just about every store bought variety I’ve tried belongs in the trash can.

    To me, a good salsa is very textured, not puréed like most of the common names are. Diced tomatoes, onions, peppers, cilantro, the works. There’s a Mexican restaurant nearby that makes their own, and it’s amazing! I have a hard time eating anything else after trying theirs.
     
  19. EdFred

    EdFred Taxi to Parking

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2005
    Messages:
    28,762
    Location:
    Michigan

    Display name:
    White Chocolate
    Hot sauce is the equivalent of broth/stock.
    Salsa is like soup, and can vary in consistency, but you still need a spoon to get it out of a container without losing some of it.
    Pico is like stew and you can scoop it out of a container with a fork.
     
    RyanB likes this.
  20. Aviatordoc

    Aviatordoc Pre-Flight PoA Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2019
    Messages:
    77
    Location:
    Chattanooga, TN

    Display name:
    Aviator
    Although Salsa means sauce from spanish, here in the US salsa typically refers to tomato based blend of a coarse thick chunky dipping sauce. Hot sauce is HOT and is pureed fine.
    I dont think Hot sauce can be called salsa, not in my head.
     
    mcdewey likes this.
  21. luvflyin

    luvflyin Touchdown! Greaser!

    Joined:
    May 8, 2015
    Messages:
    13,791
    Location:
    Vancouver, WA

    Display name:
    Luvflyin
    Ah Ha!!! Calling in the reinforcments. Texan calls Okie for help. This is Epic I tells ya
     
    TCABM and SixPapaCharlie like this.
  22. steingar

    steingar Taxi to Parking

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2007
    Messages:
    29,002
    Location:
    Land of Savages

    Display name:
    steingar
    Salsa is really a tomato chutney. Hot sauce is a puree of peppers, salt, spices and whatever else. Were I making hot sauce I'd ferment the peppers, but that's just me.
     
  23. texasclouds

    texasclouds Pattern Altitude

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2018
    Messages:
    2,490
    Location:
    Bryan, Texas

    Display name:
    Mark
    Hot sauce…is that what the kids call it these days??
     
    Zeldman and TCABM like this.
  24. Craig

    Craig Line Up and Wait

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2015
    Messages:
    989
    Location:
    North Texas

    Display name:
    Craig
    SPC: You need to get some Hell on the Red party dip to sample.... My youngest will shovel in the chips dipped in it about as fast as he can without choking.
     
  25. TCABM

    TCABM En-Route

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2013
    Messages:
    3,079

    Display name:
    3G
    Maybe the waiter ain’t from around here and doesn’t know the difference. But you need to tip him/her at least 20% for not knowing the difference, otherwise you hate restaurant workers.

    Wait. You can afford to eat out at a place with table service and wait staff? You must own a plane too.
     
    Daleandee likes this.
  26. Arm3

    Arm3 Pre-takeoff checklist

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2020
    Messages:
    150

    Display name:
    Arm3
    Please tell me they make it in New York City now.
     
  27. X3 Skier

    X3 Skier En-Route PoA Supporter

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2011
    Messages:
    4,262
    Location:
    I19 & SBS

    Display name:
    Geezer
    You’re all wrong. Salsa is a form of Dance and Music. It is not Hot Sauce and is not edible.

    Cheers
     
  28. Walboy

    Walboy Pre-takeoff checklist

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2014
    Messages:
    230

    Display name:
    Walboy
    using the words "hot sauce" is sort of like calling all carbonated soft drinks a "coke" which is done regularly in these parts.
     
  29. Daleandee

    Daleandee En-Route

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2020
    Messages:
    3,735

    Display name:
    Dale Andee
    I guess I need to go into anonymous and ask a doc about my recent mental illness, but I have agree ... these folks are correct!
     
  30. SoonerAviator

    SoonerAviator Final Approach

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2014
    Messages:
    7,703
    Location:
    Broken Arrow, OK

    Display name:
    SoonerAviator
    Most certainly not an Okie thing. Salsa is salsa. Hot sauce is Tabasco or similar. Salsa may be blended up to be "less chunky", but it's still not hot sauce. If you ask for hot sauce in OK, you're getting Tobasco or Louisiana-style sauce.
     
    TCABM likes this.
  31. Kritchlow

    Kritchlow Final Approach

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2014
    Messages:
    7,227

    Display name:
    Kritchlow
    The big question is Salsa vs Picante
     
  32. Mikey B

    Mikey B Pre-takeoff checklist

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2021
    Messages:
    136
    Location:
    Delaware/Arizona

    Display name:
    Mike
    And don't forget, in New Mexico the waitperson will say "red or green," and if you answer "Christmas" you get both.
     
    TCABM, Whitney, Zeldman and 1 other person like this.
  33. Rich Holt

    Rich Holt Line Up and Wait

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2021
    Messages:
    601
    Location:
    SC

    Display name:
    holtyrd
    In my part of the world, this is what Salsa is.

    upload_2022-6-6_15-7-29.png
     
    Whitney likes this.
  34. Zeldman

    Zeldman Touchdown! Greaser!

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2014
    Messages:
    15,469
    Location:
    high desert NM

    Display name:
    Billy

    Very true.... problem is that just about all restaurants get their chili from the same restaurant supply. So there is very little variation in the red or green between restaurants.
     
  35. Racerx

    Racerx Pattern Altitude

    Joined:
    May 15, 2020
    Messages:
    1,959

    Display name:
    Ernie
    Is this like the Coca-cola thing? Ask for a coke in some parts and you'll get asked "what kind"
     
  36. Racerx

    Racerx Pattern Altitude

    Joined:
    May 15, 2020
    Messages:
    1,959

    Display name:
    Ernie
    Hot sauce comes from a bottle. Salsa is in a jar...if you must buy it from a store
     
  37. IK04

    IK04 En-Route PoA Supporter

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2018
    Messages:
    3,064
    Location:
    Copperas Cove, Texas

    Display name:
    LNXGUY
    Hot sauce comes in a skinny red bottle and has a watery viscosity. Accept no substitutes.

    Salsa/Picante Sauce has chunks of veggies in it.

    By the way, the San Antonio Salsa Company was bought out by HEB and they sell it under the HEB/Hill Country Fare brand now. Same stuff. Still the BEST!
     
  38. Sac Arrow

    Sac Arrow Touchdown! Greaser!

    Joined:
    May 11, 2010
    Messages:
    19,162
    Location:
    Oakland, CA

    Display name:
    Bro do you even lift
    I have nothing further to add to this conversation. We have already spoken our peace.
     
  39. Salty

    Salty Touchdown! Greaser!

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2016
    Messages:
    11,167
    Location:
    FL

    Display name:
    Salty
    This belongs in the first world problems thread.
     
  40. Country Flier

    Country Flier Line Up and Wait

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2019
    Messages:
    559

    Display name:
    CFL
     
    Flocker, Zeldman and Whitney like this.
  41. Whitney

    Whitney Ejection Handle Pulled

    Joined:
    May 9, 2022
    Messages:
    1,127
    Location:
    BC Canada/Baja Mexico

    Display name:
    Whitney

    He is correct.

    Going to go mark this day on the calendar.
     
    TCABM likes this.