The testing center has accused me of cheating on my IR written.

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  1. SixPapaCharlie

    SixPapaCharlie May the force be with you

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    ^^^ This is a wet blanket. Look at your posts. bah humbug, rinse and repeat.
    I have been posting the same type of content here well before I had any social media.
    I write jokes. That's what I do. I tell jokes. I guess I could sit in a corner, write them and then throw them away.

    Then instead of ever laughing I could come here and post on very thread about why the poster before me is wrong and I am right but you have that market cornered.
    *Getting off your lawn
     
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    That's what she said...
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    Testing centers are a license to print money. If I had one I'd protect it zealously.
     
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    Hahaha. Thanks for the laugh.
     
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    Only half the story. The class clown doesn't tell jokes to himself, he tells it to an audience. The bigger the audience, the better.
    And speaking of "Bah humbug" I'm seeing that in the, "I tell a joke (never mind that it could damage a business reputation) and the guy has the audacity to punish me," he types while smiling at all the new followers.
     
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    They did take my phone, keys, and provided me with 2 sheets of paper, 2 pencils, and a testing supplement.
    There were 2 cameras in the room but one was clearly unplugged with cords just hanging down the wall not connected to anything.

    It seemed fairly locked down from that perspective.

    I also brought in an old school E6B.
     
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    Kinda. when I posted I had no idea what it was for. PSI told me I was accused of cheating and I was confused and ****ed.

    After that post I found out why and went "Oh yea, I can see that" I called the dude at the testing center and he seemed cool once I said " I apologize and offered to make a public apology for crossing the line"
    He was quite nice after that.

    I was only angry before I realized it was my own fault.
     
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    :popcorn:

    This is getting interesting.

    :rollercoaster:
     
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    I agree Jack!
    And some need to grow up...
     
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    AND, that should be the end of it hopefully.
     
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    For a living?
     
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    well....did you cheat? o_O
     
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    No one really knows, for sure. We have a solid admission and an understandable denial.

    That's what investigation is for.
     
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    Hi is a bona fide YouTuber - don't know if it's risen to the level of any income.
     
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    Maybe he's a writer for TV comedy? Dunno.
     
  16. SixPapaCharlie

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    I wish.

    YouTube is making my hangar and plane payment at this point. There is financial potential there. I'm having fun with it. More fun than my chosen profession anyway.

    I've been invited to speak at an aviation event in June. That's growth to me.
     
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    Good point. Perhaps aviation schools should NOT be allowed to be in the side business of written testing.

    Plenty of places will happily do it more professionally with no worries about their “reputation” or any conflicts of interest that way. They wouldn’t even bother engaging with a social media post.

    By the way, the FAA locations are NOT all PSI locations. The list you’re looking at that shows 85% flight schools is missing the PSI locations that give other tests but not FAA ones.

    FAA testing isn’t their largest or most lucrative contracts. Tossing out all the poor dear flight schools who have such high stresses keeping up appearances, could be done tomorrow in the bat of an eye we without PSI breathing heavy.

    But I’m more inclined to think there’s just one blowhard at American Flyers at one location who can’t handle social media jokes vs a majority of flight schools being concerned about them. Or even AF as a whole. Have met too many smart people who worked for them.

    The guy who had the franchise was also a flight school though. Barely gave a crap about the franchise other than marketing fluff for his school.

    If you want a nicer PSI experience overall, any location away from an airport is usually in a nice office park near better places to eat lunch. LOL. Full of accountants and real estate and tech people taking much harder tests.

    Better equipment, better staff, more organized than the small ones aviation schools usually have crammed in a corner office of a cheaply remodeled hangar. Customers intolerant of test machines not being ready to go.

    Just sayin. Taken a bunch of tests with PSI. Not just aviation tests. The airport locations are consistently the shoddiest of them all.

    They’re focusing on their flight school business before their testing business. The off airport facilities need repeat customers far worse. It’s their core business.
     
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    Seriously people! How can anyone take his post as anything but a joke? If he we’re really cheating would he actually type “Hey, the proctor is coming, be cool”. Or would he simply just hide is phone. Not to mention he really doesn’t even ask a legitimate question.

     
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    Maybe a better way of stating it would be, “If Bryan has proof...”

    But let’s make your example applicable...your wife jokes about having an affair with another member of the military. You know it’s not true, but report an affair to teach her a lesson. Still no repercussions are appropriate?
     
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    Maybe before you walk into the aviation event, post up a bomb threat and tag-em! That'll get a laugh or two!!
     
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    Okay. But I'm saying it's your idea if this goes south.
     
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    Deal!! :)

    I know I've repeatedly been a wet blanket here, but I do, sincerely hope everything comes out well for you after it sorts out.
     
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    Hahaha
     
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    Unfortunately, this will only lead to yet another event. The OP craves the attention.
     
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    Man using some of you guys logic half my interactions with passengers would be an FAA investigation.

    Pax "you look to young to be a pilot" (im 32 and get this surprising often)
    Me "yeah I paid extra so their letting me sit up front" or any other number of semi snarky obviously false comment.

    According to some If i did that on FB..
    i made a public statement pax reported me for not being a pilot and apparently the faa has to investigate (really they have to?) and I'd deserve some sort of judgment.

    Maybe im in the wrong but half of what i say is some sort of joke pun or obviously fake comment. When i took my ATP and type rating "do i give you the case of beer now or after the ride" when i took my written "open book right?"

    When the FAA asi was in the CFI office and talking to someone about whiteout vs line through and initial. ASI "we get suspicious when we see a lot of whiteout" me "good thing i use the green color then"

    According to half you guys i should be investigated for logbook falsification, trying to cheat on my written, trying to bribe my way through atp ride and not meeting the age requirements for 121 operations.

    Instead i got similar jokes back, from the atp written lady and my FAA atp ride, and smiles from passengers and ASI.
     
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    Unlike some poor ninny at AF who’s been living under a rock, or couldn’t be bothered to click on his name and look at his FB posts... the event knows who they invited. :)

    I just realized something Bryan-y.

    AF probably really screwed with you because the second post down your page, you’re in the polo shirt of and flying with a better instructor from one of their competitors.

    LOL.

    They’ve probably lost significant business to those guys.

    Nah... they wouldn’t do that and pretend it was about actual testing “safety” now would they? ;)

    Hey when stirring the pot, that post here the other day asked if we were supposed to stir clockwise or counterclockwise.

    I never saw a definitive answer... :) :) :)
     
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    In-person humor has the benefit of facial expression and vocal expression that text-based humor lacks.
     
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    I seriously LOLed at that.
     
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    You crave being able to assert your superiority over seemingly anyone that posts something on here with which you disagree.

    I'm not even remotely speaking about this thread.
     
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    Even more reason for any idiot handling social media chores to not take anything too seriously.

    Might miss humor in the sea of cat memes and a hundred posts like this one above and below their useless business crap cluttering the place up!

    [​IMG]
     
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    6P: you know you were joking, I know you were joking, your FB and POA friends know you were joking, but the joke died outside that envelope. Whether the testing center is being vindictive or clueless, they have a duty to run a clean operation. Apparently an attitude of “kill them all, let FAA sort it out” is a good possibility to expect.

    Live and learn.
     
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    If you don’t like his post you can always turn him off, but then what would you have to complain about.

    And he gets my attention. He is funny and by all accounts a good person and Father.

    You also get my attention but not for the same reasons
     
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    That's like admitting to the cordial police officer who pulled you over that you drove 65 in a 50 or rolled through a stop sign. He doesn't have to send a printout of his video or a record from his radar equipment to the court. You admitted right there that you violated the law and he'll mark that down on his record of the contact. If it comes before a judge, that admission will be weighed against your subsequent denials.


    It's PSIs policies Brian admitted to violating. By doing so in public, he made it look like they are not maintaining the integrity of the testing process. When you go into their testing center you agree to abide by their 'no electronics' policy. It'll be up to someone higher up at PSI to sort out that he didn't in fact cheat and reverse the sanction.

    I have taken plenty of standardized tests, FAA and professional. I don't get how that post is supposed to even be funny.
     
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    Hahahaha!!! Grumman and it's on a HELOC so the payment is very small.
     
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    1) Then the report is malicious and is a false report with attendant consequences.
    2) Marriage counseling.
    3) And I think there is a difference between two pilots in the lobby "quiet here comes the proctor" and a social media post (ever notice that the initials are a niche personal proclivity?) Now that it has been broadcast far and wide on the "clacks" [I just discovered Discworld] I don't think there is any choice but to address the matter.

    I'm thinking we've beaten this one to death. If you want the last word, go for it.
     
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    For those posting about the OP just wanting attention, can’t the same be said for those commenting, and now me. It’s a vicious cycle. Anyway, I appreciate “Y”’s humor because it’s quick with an appropriate amount of intelligence.

    Not that this matters or anyone cares, I get all sides to this little kerfuffle and in the end, they talked and everything is ok. i think that means they’re normal, sorry “y”.

    now, can we please go back to POA’s favorite topic, bashing california?
     
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    Which matter? The alleged cheating or the alleged malicious report?
     
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    Alleged cheating.
     
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