The Right Answer Really Is a Bo

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  1. NealRomeoGolf

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    Since I am out of the flying game for now, I have reverted back to dreaming about my future flying life. My Archer will not be my final plane (as long as my finances continue to allow) so I have been thinking about what could be next. I was stuck on a Mooney (J or later) for the longest time but the baggage door always bothered me. So I have now come to the conclusion that my next plane will probably be an A36. This is 4 plus years down the road, mind you, but it's a goal to work toward. Thanks to everyone that says the answer is always a Bo. You were right.

    P.S. Anyone have an A36 I can sit in/fly in when I'm on home leave next summer? :cool:
     
  2. eman1200

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    see, they all come around eventually
     
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    If you need a bigger baggage door, but not the barn doors, take a look at a late model 33/35.
     
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    Na....get a real BOnanza....a V35A :D
     
  5. GRG55

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    Debatable if that is due to being a cult, or some brain chemistry imbalance:

    They drink the Kool-aid from beer mugs so nobody will notice. :cheers:

    They are the original species to flock to Oshkosh every summer, most comfortable in large numbers. :blueplane::blueplane::blueplane::blueplane::blueplane::blueplane::blueplane::blueplane::blueplane:

    And they suffer from serious dissociative identity disorder - V-tail, Straight-tail, which is the REAL Bo?? :dunno:
     
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    Sure, swing on by New Orleans and let's fly.
     
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    fuggedabout a Bo

    Tail draggers are where it's at

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  8. NealRomeoGolf

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    I hate the yoke styles on the old Bos. Stupid thing to fixate on but that’s just me. I have to get past 1984 to get the individual yokes.
     
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  9. NealRomeoGolf

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    We should be in Dallas part of the summer. Could put in a jaunt down south. Thanks!
     
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    ktup-flyer Pattern Altitude

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    I went to Oshkosh in an Aztec and a 182 this year. Not sure I'd trade the cabin space in either for a Bo
     
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    My wife likes the throw over yoke. Right now I have the dual to get a couple of ratings. When she flies she asks when I will switch back.

    It does open up more room.
     
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    It really is..
     
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    I have to agree. Beechcraft really got that one right. There are other planes that individually do some tasks better when it comes to payload, speed, comfort, etc., but all in all the Bonanza really is, I think, the best compromise of all those elements
     
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    Meh....they're OK. :D
     
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    I share a hangar with a Bonanza now and I noticed that I has a shorter wingspan that my Mooney has. It materially helps to maneuver airplanes inside.
     
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    Join Beechtalk.com
     
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    It is an 18 inch smaller wingspan than my Archer.
     
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    Bo is great, especialy if you like $20k autopilots. No joke Garmin wants about $12k more for the GFC600 over the GFC500 (for the same # of servos)
     
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    And they still won't explain why. Nor will they explain why they are choosing the line they've drawn between who gets what.
     
  20. NealRomeoGolf

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    You’ll have to clue me in here. Most I have looked at have KFC150 autopilots. What is the Garmin situation.
     
  21. GLMS_NC

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    Go over to Beechtalk.com and look for a MENTOR in your area. They will fly you anytime.
     
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    I was just curious to see what the A36 Bonanza was, so I searched.
    I'm sure it's a simple answer I'm just not getting but the blurbs for it say:

    "Reduce take off roll by 40%. Decrease landing distance by 50%. Double your rate of climb. Shorten block-time up to 25%. Performance achieved with a Rolls-Royce Turboprop Engine conversion by Soloy Aviation."

    I wondered what in the world they mean by, or can predict "shorten block time up to 25%" ?

    How does that work? How does a plane shorten block time?
     
  23. GRG55

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    Doesn't part of that have to do with "hardened" servos for low temp at altitude and that sort of thing? Or is this another example of the exact same part with two certifications and two prices?
     
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    An A36 Bonanza is a lengthened fuselage, (allegedly) six-place, straight-tail variation of the original V-tail Bonanza built by Beechcraft.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beechcraft_Bonanza

    What you are looking at is an aftermarket turbo-prop conversion that is not a Beechcraft product, but uses the A36 Beechcraft Bonanza airframe.
    https://www.soloy.com/a36-bonanza.html
     
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    How very clever of them.
     
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    Meaning what?
     
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    It shortens block time because it's a turbo-prop conversion. Flys faster. It's not the production model.
     
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    It's that stupid money thing again. I can afford to buy a Bo, but not to maintain one. I can afford to maintain a RV-9, but I can't afford to build one.

    Sigh....
     
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    That's why they built Cessnas and Pipers! ;)
     
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    Maybe I'm just thick headed here. To my limited understanding there is block time, block off when you start to taxi, and block on when you would power off and set the blocks. Different than flying time.

    So if I get you, it's just a clever way to say "you get to your destination more quickly"? "Block time" is just using the term for marketing?
     
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    Block time here is basically from start to shut down. Or it can be from actual take off to touchdown. Airlines use both.
     
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    Been there, bought a Mooney.
     
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    B54DE314-1D74-4C3D-B44F-BAE74CA81E8F.png Don’t forget, these old airplanes are either “original” or “highly customized”. Lots of STCs - and not just for avionics. I had a conversation with a C35 owner the other day with a 550 under the cowling. He got it to get in and out of backwoods air strips.

    There are engine upgrades, tip tanks, air conditioning and many other STCs.

    This is not counting there is the fast 35 - 4 seat bonanza; the conventional tail 33 - 4 seat bonanza; and the six seat 36. (I always thought the bonanzas were 6 seat airplanes .)

    I finally figured out the family was afraid of small airplanes and decided to get one that made me smile.
     
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    Aren't RV-9's in the same price range as a lot of Bo's? I own/fly a 9A, but did not build it. Definitely, an RV-9 is an fairly economical way to go fast. But a buddy of mine has a Bo ('62 model, I think) and I do love that airplane; it just feels solid. I would love to have a slightly later model with a 520 engine, but I too am concerned about ops and mx costs. :)
     
  36. GLMS_NC

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    Who says you must have brand new? Plenty of KFC150/200, STEC, and Century 4/41/2000 units doing an awesome job every day.

    You can make the same argument for models belonging to Mooney, Beechcraft, Cirrus, Piper...
     
  37. GLMS_NC

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    Spot on. I did a 337 to add 40 lbs of additional nose weights to significantly reduce the aft CG problem found in many a v35B's. This one had tip tanks and amazing what this did to affect loading. And you are right - it is a fast airplane.

    Those who know all you can do to a Bo are the ones who won't fly anything else.
     
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    Had an uncle that had an A-36, got to fly with him once. I really enjoyed the flight and the plane. Beech quality, hard to beat that. He sold it and bought a PC-12 so my aunt could have a lavatory when they traveled....:)
     
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    Just curious - What don't you like about the Mooney baggage door? IMO, it works WAY better than the ones seen on most singles.
     
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    And they never changed them on the 35s or 33s. Only the 36 (and 58).