Talk me out of building a Van's RV

Discussion in 'Home Builders and Sport Pilots' started by iamtheari, Nov 21, 2017.

  1. tsts4

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    I agree with what Capt Geoffrey said. To piggyback, if you are thinking about buying then this where getting an experienced builder of that particular model to perform/assist with a pre-purchase inspection can pay huge dividends.

    I built my RV-10 and have 200 hrs on it, but I only have a passing knowledge of the other models.
     
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    I know of a T-18 for sale. Very nice airplane.
     
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    Just do it! I helped build one back in the late 90's in The Netherlands, started my own project before life got in the way and still regret selling it. And... just this morning saw that the guy that bought it just flew it for the first time. Even more envy now. Do it!
     
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    weilke Touchdown! Greaser!

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    This thread is not good for me. Every time it gets bumped I look at the calendar and my 401k statement.
     
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    Too late...
     

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    At least it's about a 9A. No worries of your 401k going upside down. [Ravioli laughs alone again]
     
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    Awesome! Get a better way to ‘store the parts’ though... good luck!
     
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    nice furniture......:D
     
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    You like my shiny, 9 foot long TV tray? :)
     
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    Checkout_my_Six Final Approach

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    I do....I do...;)
     
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    Wow, never realized that 2700' is short . . . But when I visit a 2000' grass strip, I don't take more than one pax with half tanks. I do trade the 2nd person for more fuel, though. Mooneys aren't known as short field performers. I was based for 7 years at a 3000' paved field with trees on each end, it was easy peasy. Now I'm on 3200' open on ine end and falling off to a river on the other.
     
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    Trees on north end are 80’ literally at end of runway. South end is more open 30’ trees 50’ from end of runway where I’m based. I know a couple of folks who won’t fly their RVs in there.


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    The only hesitation I have about composite is that (I believe) the leading kit manufacturers don't include a lightning protection grid and the aircraft could be structurally compromised by a lightning strike. I could be wrong.

    I really like the Glasair II and III from a performance and aesthetic standpoint over the RV's.
     
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    If you never go any farther with it, you could do like Red Green did with the kitchen counter top and wear it as a portable work bench, after adding suspenders to hold it up.
     
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    It's almost depressing how little duct tape goes into this plane.
     
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    Oh you could add as much as you like, really. It’s your airplane. Might not please the inspector at the end, but there’s nothing stopping you really. :)
     
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    That's a pilot limitation, not a RV limitation.
     
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    Correct, lack of a faraday cage was a concern of mine as well. Over time I’ve come to accept the slim odds of a Lightning strike and the fact that if it does happen, it won’t necessarily be catastrophic.
     
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    True, but the RV is a more capable short field plane than the Mustang II or T-18. I'm pretty used to it having flown in/out regularly in my planes for 15 years and have been based there two years now. I flew my underpowered Swift in there several times, but only when winds were from the south and solo with 1/2 fuel. A pilot who doesn't understand the plane or his own limitations is a problem on that strip. If anyone isn't comfortable flying there, I'm not going to try to talk him into it even if he plane is capable. I grew up flying from a 2000' ag strip so short doesn't bother me. It sure does many folks.

    2700' alone isn't short. Add in the fact it is sod, sometimes needs cut or is wet and has the aforementioned trees of substantial height at north end...it can be short. I'm sure a Mooney could get in and out to the south with a bit of wind. Problem is, many folks aren't comfortable enough to try it.
     
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    My spare bedroom was ideal for air-conditioned RV parts storage, and freed up working space in the garage. Had just about everything but the fuselage and wings in there. Hardest part was maneuvering the horiz. stab through the front door and making a hard right turn down the hall!

    Iamtheari, here's another build photo for inspiration!!

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    The photo was just the horizontal stabilizer posed on the "deburring couch" the day I finished it. It's actually stored under the stairs in the cradles. The vertical stabilizer is also in cradles. The rudder is temporary sitting on top of the barrel/pallet of whiskey.

    I have a 6' French door directly out from the main work space. I can put the wheels on the fuselage and roll it out, with a small side-shift halfway through. I may even try to hang the engine in the basement. The more I can do there, the faster I can do it.

    I also ordered some teleprompter glass, a small OLED display, and a fresnel lens to build a prototype HUD. All of the experimental avionics spit enough data out for logging purposes to drive a pretty complete HUD, and if the prototype works out I can study how to get additional data to be even more complete. Because anything worth doing is worth overdoing.
     
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    While making your own HUD is certainly in the spirit of Experimental aviation (education, recreation, etc.), you can buy one for not much $$$$$:

    http://grtavionics.com/home/efis-systems/heads-up-display/
     
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    I’ve studied that option. Requires GRT EFIS and an android device, but worst of all is focused 6-8 feet in front of you, which is roughly infinity feet less than infinity where it should be. :)