suggestion for improvement

eman1200 said:
I've often said it......free beer from our moderators would certainly be an improvement. even just once a year. preferably when I'm not out of town.
Click to expand...

I was thinking the reverse ... would be glad to buy them a beer if given the opportunity.
 
midlifeflyer said:
I think it was Walter Cronkite who said that if you're being criticized by both sides, you're probably doing something right.
Click to expand...

It's like the definition of a good negotiation ... both sides are a little unhappy with the result.
 
midlifeflyer said:
I think it was Walter Cronkite who said that if you're being criticized by both sides, you're probably doing something right.
Click to expand...
I'm not so sure.... I've been in too many meetings with too many vendors to not realize that quite often every single person in a room is completely wrong.

Or to put it another way, sometimes we have to pick the least stupid vendor.
 
eman1200 said:
I've often said it......free beer from our moderators would certainly be an improvement. even just once a year. preferably when I'm not out of town.
Click to expand...

It can be warm. I’m ok with that. That kind of graciousness from me should win me 1/2 an anti-ban token.
 
Salty said:
The problems start when one side can’t be at all happy unless the other side is completely miserable.
Click to expand...
...or completely silenced. No contrary viewpoints allowed.
 
Ed Haywood said:
Sure but those are the easy ones. Low hanging fruit. The tough ones require splitting the baby.
Click to expand...

I don't agree for all situations. An apparently impossible one would be negotiations so that all parties would be happy in the middle east.
 
Well, this was fun. And although technically true, my post about how to remedy bad threads was meant as a joke.

IBTL
 
4 pages on this thread and no one has mentioned Henning? Still miss him.. @Iflydogs hope you reconsider and don’t leave the forum, I’ve enjoyed reading your posts the past few years.
 
Ed Haywood said:
It's like the definition of a good negotiation ... both sides are a little unhappy with the result.
Click to expand...

I will always remember the opening day of a negotiation with our union at a TV station in Rochester, New York. The lawyer representing the company read his proposal and the union guys were furious... no seniority, no checkoff, no jurisdiction, essentially taking away everything that was in the union contract. They blew up. Then he said, and I remember this clearly, "I asked you what you want. This is what we want. We know we won't get everything we want and you should know you won't get everything you want. That's why it is called "negotiation."

That contract took about three years.
 
Last edited:
sarangan said:
I agree with the observation, but not really with the solution, and honestly, I’m not sure there is one. I’ve noticed that when well-known influencers share their opinions, people rarely push back, no matter the subject. But when it’s someone else, any disagreement can quickly turn into an attack not just on the opinion, but on the credibility of the person. Fortunately, this doesn’t happen all that often, but it only takes a few run-ins like that for someone to just throw up their hands and walk away. I’ve also noticed this kind of behavior is much more common from posters hiding behind unidentifiable screen names. Perhaps one way to increase civility among people is to not hide behind a mask.
Click to expand...
Unfortunately, some of us have (or had) jobs where we are reminded frequently to be very aware of social media and extremely careful what and where we post because of what we do(did) and/or who we work for. Now it's just a habit that's been ingrained into me over the decades.
 
Ed Haywood said:
Sure but those are the easy ones. Low hanging fruit. The tough ones require splitting the baby.
Click to expand...
Splitting the baby doesn’t necessarily mean unhappy with the result. I’ve come away very surprised by a few mediated settlements in hotly contested litigation in which a client who I thought would be very unhappy was quite the opposite.
 
murphey said:
Unfortunately, some of us have (or had) jobs where we are reminded frequently to be very aware of social media and extremely careful what and where we post because of what we do(did) and/or who we work for. Now it's just a habit that's been ingrained into me over the decades.
Click to expand...

I remember an advice from a long time ago: people may not always remember what you said or did, but they will always remember how you made them feel. Even in heated disagreements, I try to avoid straying into personal remarks that could be perceived as attacks. Disagreement itself isn’t the problem - it’s essential for challenging ideas and fostering growth. The problem arises when we start making assumptions about the person we disagree with. For example, we can debate someone’s decision to land with a tailwind, but once we start questioning the person's intellect, the conversation shifts to a very different plane. At times, such judgments may be warranted, but they should be made with great care, because once spoken, they cannot be retracted. The damage is already done.

Humans often struggle to keep disagreements civil while still respecting one another. We see this play out everywhere. Just look at our political climate. And even though political debates are banned on PoA, the same underlying behaviors can still surface in aviation discussions.
 
AKiss20 said:
Not sure how the quote got messed up but I wasn’t the one who said that.

That being said, I’m not sure it makes much of a difference. I’ve seen very civil and mature discourse on entirely anonymous places like some subreddits and incredibly toxic and hateful comments on non-anonymous Facebook (in fact I’d say Facebook is one the most toxic of the mainstream social media). Maybe it’s a second order effect but a lot of people who are hateful and toxic don’t care or don’t recognize they are hateful and toxic.
Click to expand...
Someone hasn't been to Reddit or Twitter(X), lol.
 
Asking which generic social media site is worse is kinda like asking which STD is best... But if we're voting, friends tell me that linkedin is the worst, if you have a job that sounds even remotely like you either buy things or hire people.
 
Ed Haywood said:
Depends what you use it for. I mainly use for keeping up with IRL friends and family. If you use it like that and don't like the tone, you're running with the wrong crowd.
Click to expand...
Agreed. My FB feed is just friends and family that I allow the feed to show. I'd honestly probably abandon it, too, if it weren't for FB Marketplace.
 
AKiss20 said:
I’m not on twitter but Reddit is my primary social media usage. Facebook is definitely worse than Reddit.
Click to expand...
I don't think I can agree with that at all. There are some subs which are pretty civil like PoA (r/longrange is a pretty solid group). However, if you are browsing through the sub for a major city, or anything related to music/current events, my goodness the dog piling and karma-farming comments are just awful. People have ZERO filter there in large part due to anonymity. They say things that some of the most brazen Facebook posters would hesitate to post. That said, I only use Reddit for a couple of niche things for which FB or other forums don't have an adequate substitute.
 
AKiss20 said:
I’m not on twitter but Reddit is my primary social media usage. Facebook is definitely worse than Reddit.
Click to expand...
Reddit is a dystopian nightmare designed to promote endless cycles of groupthink, and to destroy the reputation points and posting abilities for anyone who dare disagree with the prevailing orthodoxy of that particular sub. I view Reddit and X as equally awful for our collective sharing of knowledge and opinions.
Facebook is just hilariously bad. It's fully *********ied, and the people still posting on there just haven't got the memo that everyone left that place long ago.
 
RyanShort1 said:
What are the modern alternatives to Fb Marketplace???
Click to expand...
OfferUp is the one I use. But FB Marketplace isn't bad.
But that's just the market place feature; the social media section is the part that's... bad. IMHO.
 
Agree to disagree. With Reddit I can curate my subreddits heavily and never be bothered by the nonsense (also subscribe to /r/Boston and several other local city subreddits and have not seen much crap there). They don’t algorithmically push other content on me besides their ads.

My facebook feed is like half stuff I never signed up to see and the comments are a wasteland.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top