Strobe noise over radio

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Got a c172 with older Whelen strobe light set up. Unit works fine except for pulses bleed over radio at certain freqs. Other than swap wing tip wiring to shielded jacket, I ran a 12 AWG wire from battery neg terminal to avionics grounds (not airframe), made sure strobe power supply was well grounded, and checked all wire terminals and looms for possible arching to airframe. Next step is to replacing with shielded wire with one end bonded to airframe, or maybe adding a resistor or 2.the radios ore old narco units so don’t expect much but want to try all cheap remedies. Any advice appreciated.
 
Switch to LED's and never look back*

Disclaimer: I don't have any idea if it will fix your problem, but super bright LED's are cool.... annnnnd its all about looking cool :cool:
 
I'd double check the radio grounding and the antenna/antenna cable(s).
 
Any advice appreciated.
Was this an existing problem or something new?
Where is the power supply in relation to the strobe lights?
So there is no shielded wire from the power supply to the strobe lights?
 
Old issues from purchase of plane…..all grounds checked for low resistance. As with most vintage aircraft, many loads are grounded to chassis/fuselage and I have ran a grounding bus from batteries for low resistance sink and moved all avionics to that. I’m not likely spending the dinero to up grade to LED system as I rarely fly it at night, although all other lights are LED due to engine EFI. …

I upgraded other original c172 lights to reduce draw should I experience alternator failure as engine is electronic fuel injected and needs battery power to keep running…. So it extends my flight time a bit should being needed….. the LED beacon light also caused this issue until I found a different led brand that didn’t …. All non aviation LEDs so wasn’t all that costly.

These older Whelan strobes, like most GA stuff are from the 1950s 1960s, use capacitors to release significant energy in short pulse, and with so mush stuff common chassis grounded, this energy finds it way to other components.

I expect revisit the ground strobe wires is path of least resistance, no pun intended. The plane is a 1969 and if it could talk, I would keep you up all night. A lot of less than great repairs, upgrades, and mods over its life, with service as trainer and rental. When I got if, it had a inop huge and heavy ADF and left over wires from earlier stuff thy were never removed….i reduced weight by 20+ pounds after removing the ADF and seemingly miles of unused wires from stuff long gone. May have left some wire that’s transferring strobe energy back into ground somewhere.

The plane was only supposed to be a test bed for a new engine design and used for certification so we never put much interest into stuff like this. It’s now mostly used to fly around for proficiency and fly-ins so these little things come to notice. A couple of local CFIs flew it to Oshkosh this year and complained bout the noise on the long flight, so I put the issue on my to do list.
 
I had the same problem. One easy fix for mine is to turn the radio and intercom up and the volume on the headset to 50%. The issue nearly disappeared.
 
Old issues from purchase of plane….
So it was an existing problem. Does each strobe light have its own power supply, or is there a single supply for all strobes? However even though its old tech there still are many aircraft flying with these systems and minimal issues. So there usually is an economical solution to fix this without resorting to replacement.
 
Switch to LED's and never look back*

Disclaimer: I don't have any idea if it will fix your problem, but super bright LED's are cool.... annnnnd its all about looking cool :cool:
Not a strobe, but I'm loving my new LED landing light. Installed one to see the difference. Other one will be in soon.

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The shield on shielded cable is grounded at only the battery end.
 
First you need to determine if this is conducted or radiated interference (or both).

Cover the strobes themselves with metal tape and see if that changes (or removes) the noise.

If radiated, the shielding on the actual strobe light might be bad.
If conducted, it could be on the low voltage side, where a ferrite choke and/or running a twisted+shielded power/ground wire all the way to the circuit breaker (ground it next to the breaker) would help.
If on the high voltage side, bad shield grounds could be the issue. Check them, run an extra shielding braid if needed.
 
This may be a long shot but the Whelen install manual says that the shield wire is to be grounded at the power supply side only. You may want to check that it is not grounded on both sides of the wire.

Rob
 

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thanks.. did that and all is ok. most shield wires are grounded only one side, typically on power side not load side, but may be worth checking if other end may be mistakenly grounded as well.
 
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