Southwest getting into the Long haul game

SixPapaCharlie

SixPapaCharlie

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SixPapaCharlie said:
Guessing they wouldn't be based out of Love Field. I suppose a dreamliner would need a lot longer runway to take off.
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main runway is 8800 feet. I would guess it depends how much gas and buts you want to put in it. But the point is to go long so it's not like they're short on other places they fly out of. I'm sure BWI would like more international flights and they're SWAs third biggest hub.
 
May as well join the group, JetBlue is flying the Atlantic. It may take a while to get new 787s, seem to be booked out a few years.
 
SixPapaCharlie said:
Cool I guess but I'm not sure how I feel about it giving that I feel Southwest is pretty synonymous with the Boeing 737.

Guessing they wouldn't be based out of Love Field. I suppose a dreamliner would need a lot longer runway to take off.

Should be interesting to see how this plays out.

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Can't read the article, but considering isn't the same as buying. Also, under the WARA and five-party agreement, Southwest is entitled to gates at DFW if it wants them.
 
I was in an Alaksa 737 on a trans-con nonstop route not long ago. Continued stretching of fuselage and range kind of challenges the notion of what a "737" route is these days.
 
DJTorrente said:
I was in an Alaksa 737 on a trans-con nonstop route not long ago. Continued stretching of fuselage and range kind of challenges the notion of what a "737" route is these days.
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The max10 will be interesting. Lots of Econ seats … or more premium cabin seats and more range. Alaska announced lie flats in their 10s. I took a single aisle ua757 EWR - TXL (now BER) and can’t say I was a fan. But that was partly the seat that had given up the ghost with frequent bathroom crowding.
 
masloki said:
The max10 will be interesting. Lots of Econ seats … or more premium cabin seats and more range.
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They all have the same size fuel tanks. Larger, heavier, varients have shorter ranges.

These are the figures I find for max range.

737-7: 3,800nm
737-8: 3,500nm
737-9: 3,300nm
737-10: 3,100nm
 
No problem operating a 787 from DAL (as noted above, Braniff flew its 747 ("Big Orange" or "Fat Albert") from DAL to HNL 6 days a week until DFW opened in 1974, and AA routinely operated DC-10s from DAL until, again, DFW opened. But, unless there is a change in the law relating to international ops, DAL cannot be the origin or destination of (scheduled) 121 ops.

If (when) WN starts 787 service, I'd look for first blood from Baltimore, Las Vegas, Denver and Nashville (and I think Austin could be a dark-horse candidate).

Still several years out, but if they do it (they will), look for a successful launch.

Note also that they are building their first four passenger lounges at Austin, Baltimore, Honolulu and Nashville (opening in 2027), and have seven more in the pipeline at as-yet undisclosed locations. I think the lounge builds are decent indicators of long-haul termini.

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Edit: Who remembers that AA operated DC-10 service from Austin's Robert Mueller Municipal Airport in the 80s - and its longest runway was a mere 7313 feet!
 
SCCutler said:
No problem operating a 787 from DAL (as noted above, Braniff flew its 747 ("Big Orange" or "Fat Albert") from DAL to HNL 6 days a week until DFW opened in 1974, and AA routinely operated DC-10s from DAL until, again, DFW opened. But, unless there is a change in the law relating to international ops, DAL cannot be the origin or destination of (scheduled) 121 ops.

If (when) WN starts 787 service, I'd look for first blood from Baltimore, Las Vegas, Denver and Nashville (and I think Austin could be a dark-horse candidate).

Still several years out, but if they do it (they will), look for a successful launch.

Note also that they are building their first four passenger lounges at Austin, Baltimore, Honolulu and Nashville (opening in 2027), and have seven more in the pipeline at as-yet undisclosed locations. I think the lounge builds are decent indicators of long-haul termini.

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Edit: Who remembers that AA operated DC-10 service from Austin's Robert Mueller Municipal Airport in the 80s - and its longest runway was a mere 7313 feet!
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Phoenix, you meant to say.
 
With Southwest's crew scheduling issues on their current flights, adding more will probably add to the issue.
 
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