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Discussion in 'Hangar Talk' started by mtuomi, Mar 22, 2017.
I guess their AOA failed...
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Not another FP accident!
Failed to Pull.
We. Are. Not. Learning.
Might need an SAIB to fix this.
Looks like he tried to land on a helipad and came up short.
Gotta use the chute to land on a helipad with a Cirrus.
As much as I value the instructional capabilities of @SixPapaCharlie (which are some of the best I've seen), his demonstrating that a Cirrus can be landed and re-taken off again may have encouraged this pilot to perform the risky behavior of landing without a parachute. As was noted in his video, the plane was clearly unhappy, issuing multiple warnings that he should simply pull the chute.
Looks like a bird strike.
Will that buff out?
pretty sure that prop will buff out. I'd leave the q-tips though.
Inadequate flare? Porpoise? Sux...
At least he saved the cost of a chute repack.
I saw an A36 taxi into a portable helo pad. Not paying attention.
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Back in Pennsylvania an SR22 came in one night and turned the prop into a Q-tip. He came in at a nose-down attitude and didn't flare. Engine needed a teardown and new prop as you'd imagine.
If he was found having taxied into a helipad, then it seems to me he just wasn't paying attention.
"Mulligans new Cirrus SR22 in production"?
I recognize that helicopter dolly. It's been used many times to haul airplanes off the runway. I'm sure I'll hear about when I go to work tomorrow.
Yep it's right there for everyone to admire. Let us know what you hear!
I watched a C-207 taxi into a 55 gallon drum of anti-freeze. On a gravel ramp. Man, what a mess..!!!
It looks like the typical "too fast, porpoise" scenario.
A friend of mine did that with a 206 in Bethel a bunch of years ago. I was just taxiing in with the Casa when he did it. Unfortunately, I was reading the checklist and missed all the flying parts.
To speculate a bit, wouldn't be surprised if it was 3L. The optical illusion caused by the width and length compared to 3R can fool you.
It's also the hump that gets people. You think you are running out of runway, when you really have a lot left.
I hate that illusion. Thankfully not too many places have it, but that one is hard to avoid anywhere other than by reading the slope indications on the airport diagrams very carefully.
This happened in Kiana, east of Kotzebue. I had both engines running and was looking down finishing paperwork when I heard the noise. I looked up and saw the spray and my first thought was that a plane just crashed on the ramp.
In Bethel I watched a 207 taxi by. It was a windy day and I saw it hit a BIG wad of shrink wrap rolling across the ramp, and right into the prop. He throttled up, chewed threw it and kept on going.
Yeah PDK is pretty bad. 3L is 50ft wider but 2000ft shorter than 3R, which is right next to it. And there's a pretty pronounced hump in the middle, you can't see the end of the runway from 50ft above threshold. Also no PAPI/VASI lights. Bring your a-game especially at night (no centerline lights either).
There are PAPI's
Why am I thinking they are inop, I'll check tomorrow when I land
Fond memories of Kiana. I watched our agent's daughter grow up and start flying his plane around at the age of 13 or so. I used to joke with her about her ability to reach the rudder pedals. She got her private ticket just after midnight on her birthday making her the youngest ever to get her PPSEL. Unfortunately, the names escape me now.
I just can't imagine the controllers reactions to these events because they happen so often.
"Oh, another one crashed."
Just kidding. I have nothing but great experiences with the guys and gals in that tower. Its a shame I dont get to fly out of there much anymore.
@Dave Theisen do share the details when you find out.
Must be talking about Zazell.
From what I heard, he bounced a few times and attempted to go around but caught a wing tip in the process. If that's true, it could have been much worse.
Must have been reaching for the chute
That would be her. Apparently she's a flying dentist now.
That explains the mud and soil everywhere.
I didn't think Harrison Ford owned a cirrus?
Pilot must not have added power yet or the prop tips would have been bent forward?? You are right - could have been much worse.