So who is flying these drones?

Discussion in 'Flight Following' started by Sinistar, Dec 30, 2019.

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    Think one can get a transcript under CO sunshine law? LOL.

    That’d be a fun read.
     
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    Or perhaps the drone's endurance far exceeds that of a helicopter. I can see A-10 being able to follow it. That thing can loiter for 8 hours. Unfortunately, it's single pilot.
     
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    Yeah, but... BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRPPPPP!
     
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    Wouldn’t there be a way to hone in on the controlling frequencies? Wouldn’t they be in a known frequency band and since there are like 30+ controllers, most likely concentrated in a small area, could they use that to track where they are being controlled from?

    In modern warfare, I’d be very surprised if the only option if an enemy was using drones that are controlled from the ground is to shoot them down.
     
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    Yes.....It's a big deal. Operators are standing by....<eye roll>
     
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    Looks like the State Pilatus with FLIR has been hunting something...

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    ... or not and just practicing. Who knows.
     
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    Cripes. Hey USAF or USN, have an AWACS or E-2 that needs some training? They have the loiter time, skills and system to find and track these drones for hours. Need to find the control vehicle? SLAR with MTI just like we track IED planters. If they really want to find them it's not rocket surgery.
     
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    I guess we are chasing a white van again.
     
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    So if you're the drone operator, wouldn't you just stop at this point, wait a few weeks for things to die down, then start back up?
     
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    That assumes they are being remotely controlled and are not preprogrammed or autonomous.
     
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    Hm...couldn’t bring up that number on my copy of FR
     
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    Sounds like an attractive option, but is it legal to use armed forces for police activity?
     
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    National Security - easy justification. We can use them on the border.
     
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    National guard assets can be used if the governor decides that they are necessary to provide a capability not available to local LE. Not sure whether full up AF assets can be used.

    After the Saudi refinery attack, you would think DoD would be all over this to protect their installations from a UAV threat.
     
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    Okay, its illegal (Federal) to shoot down a drone. But at this point these same drones could be a threat to our national defense...in which case I would think shooting one down would be justified by any individual, citizen or law enforcement. So maybe its time for a sheriff to authorize some deputies to bring one down. Make that order public with a deadline for someone to respond. Heck, will the sheriff and/or his deputies really even be arrested? It would all be public and impossible to hush. You have all these agencies rather freaked out - and no private business or federal entity is stepping up. Start bringing them down until someone fesses up. Makes you wonder - NOT- why the drone guys didn't use Texas :)
     
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    As suggested to me by a Houston undercover cop ( his sister was my neighbor when I lived in Texas)...shoot firat and hire a good lawyer. I keep my lawyer’s number on speed dial on my phone.
     
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    It's amazing what a high percentage of the smart-phone videos I see on TV that are shot that way. And then they keep panning from left to right to capture everything. For some reason, it never occurs to most people that they can turn their phones sideways, and then they wouldn't have to do that.
     
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    My favorite is the people that turn the phone half way through.. then when they replay the video to their friends and the video turns they turn the phone too.. only to have it switch on them. It is awesome how powerfully stupid the average person is

    I'm not sure why the phone doesn't just auto film in landscape

    I once watched and absolute savage watch an entire movie on a plane on their iPad in portrait mode:
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    Maybe that article was written by a non-aviation person who was misinterpreting the magenta dots that indicate non-towered airports, or the magenta circles with an R in the middle to indicate restricted airports. There seem to be plenty of both near the Colorado-Nebraska border.
     
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    I’m very disappointed in you. Your drawing is good and all, but why didn’t you record a video of this event? (In portrait mode, of course.)
     
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    This was years ago, I have a photo somewhere but was lazy to dig it up
     
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    I want to give this multiple Likes!
     
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    Unless it is shooting at you, of course.
     
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    The local talk radio is covering it now, helping remind me why I don’t live in the city with the morons. LOL.
     
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    This isn't going to help the situation:

    Samsung's new TV rotates to play vertical videos

    Dang Millenials ruin everything. :rofl:
     
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    Bump. Any news?
     
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    From a quick google search set to 24hrs or less it looks like Colorado is backing off quite a bit. They have indicated several of the sighting were actually different things such as planets, etc. A conspiracy theorist would say someone has backed them down. They are saying the Flight For Life drone near miss was not correct. I also like how DJI is at least being referenced, if not actually involved, to defend drones and how many reports are actually false.

    Its probably DJI flying mega drones under a defense contract working on swarming and finding people. Since their new drones have ADSB-IN they would have saw that Colorado state PC-12 30 miles away and buzzed back to that white van :)
     
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    Got pretty quiet on the local news other than all the news stations wanting to ogle the State owned Pilati.
     
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    Denver Post article dated the evening of Jan 13:

    https://www.denverpost.com/2020/01/13/drones-colorado-public-safety-search-empty/

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    The Colorado Department of Public Safety is scaling back its search for the mysterious drones reported to be flying patterns in Northeast Colorado and Nebraska.

    After conducting several field operations aimed at identifying the reported drones, the agency came up empty, public safety said Monday in a statement.

    Investigators checked into 23 reports of drone activity during field operations between Jan. 6 and Jan. 13, the Colorado Division of Homeland Security and Emergency Management, but did not identify any of the large drones as described by witnesses.

    Of those 23 reports,
    13 sightings were determined to be planets, stars or small hobbyist drones;
    six sightings were determined to be due to atmospheric conditions or commercial aircraft; and
    in four sightings, law enforcement confirmed that they saw something but couldn’t tell what, exactly, was flying overhead.
     
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    So, only 4 of 23 reports couldn't be explained.

    Planets, atmospheric conditions, etc. Sounds a lot like UFO crazes of the past.
     
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    The technical term is 'wild goose chase'.
     
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    Well sure they're not going to hand around after you have a big press conference saying you're going to hunt them.