Single Mom focused on Piloting

Discussion in 'Pilot Training' started by Angelica Bliss, Jun 13, 2019.

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  2. TommyG

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    The first thing you need is money. Getting the ratings aren’t cheap. Then when you have all your licenses mobility is a huge factor. If you are able to move, you can find a job to get the hours you need for a regional airline. I have 2 friends that worked as a CFI for maybe 2 months. They found jobs that required them to move. Within 18 months they had thier jobs at regionals airlines. And being 40 is not locking you out of anything at this point. There are many jobs out there that you can easily put in a solid 25 years. And a licensed therapist, you will really have fun meeting pilots.
     
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    I like the Rod Machado books. They are even better if they come with a work book.
     
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    I enjoyed the little bit of the female ATP that I watched. She seems really nice and really into aviation. It shows in the little things like she just had to add that "or you could get a seaplane with a hull" after mentioning that seaplanes had floats :) @2:45 below

     
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    A lot of good advice already given. I'll just add that don't let age bother you. I started flying for money at 38.

    Another thing I'll bring up again is mobility. Might have to move where the jobs are. Unless you can CFI for a side job and not worry about that money. Flying has taken me from Texas to Florida, Oklahoma, North Carolina, West Virginia, Alaska several times and New Mexico. But I was single most of that time and no children.
     
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    I appriciate all of the comments here. Good or bad, they all help. I hope in months or even years I can give an update and be helping someone on their way to achieving their dreams of flying too.
     
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    i would also suggest you contact the Women in Aviation organization. They are very good about mentoring new pilots. https://www.wai.org/ They also can guide you to some scholarship opportunities. You may want to look up the Aviation Careers podcast. They have a lot of good information and scholarships. It is a long journey but doable. Time will pass anyway, try and enjoy the journey. Good luck to you.
     
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    Saw Pat in Westbury Long Island a few weeks ago. One of a dozen or more of his concerts I've attended over the years, in the tri-state area. Met him and got his autograph in 2000 at J&R Music World in Manhattan (he lives in Manhattan as well).

    What an incredible Jazz guitarist/genius! One of my favorite jazz artist (up there with Wes Montgomery, Miles Davis, Lee Ritenour, Jean Luc Ponty and several others).
    Nooo, you didn't go there with the Kenny G rant! hahaha :D.

    Good luck Angelica:).
    Although not a professional pilot (Industrial Electrician/Systems Controller by trade), I was 32 when I got my PPL twenty years ago. My CFI was a young kid, 10 years my junior, lol.
    He's now a Corporate pilot.

    Oh yeah, the advice to stay away from the simulators (initially) is probably best for you.
    For me, they were my hobby for 16 years prior to my first flight lesson (still are). They taught me a tremendous amount of aviation knowledge, concepts, terms, instrumentation, etc. So, by the time I attended ground school and then got into that Cessna Skyhawk a week or so later, I was way ahead of the game and the other students! However, I did have some bad habits that my CFI had to beat out of me (trim, what's that?), lol.

    Also, I had no idea how bumpy it is in a light aircraft, so it took awhile for me to overcome the fear that it would fall apart in light turbulence. MSFS never prepared me for seat-of-the-pants. I thought it was mostly smooth up there.
     
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    Regardless of the specific path you end up taking -- good luck! Hoping you have a great experience in aviation no matter where it takes you.
     
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    She did my BFR after a couple year layoff. I can attest that she is a great person.

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    Cancel the order for the books. FAA training materials are available for free down load.
     
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    Hah - too funny; I loved this when I first read it ages ago. It will never die. Nor should it; he really is bad.
    (Amateur musician only, but former recording studio engineer.)
     
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    Now is the best time to start an aviation career.

    Truth.... if you have about $100k and two years of your time, you can be a first officer in the right seat of a 90 seat regional airliner.

    Left seat in a mainline airline is several years longer.

    But it IS possible if you have the money and time.
    Truth again.... it will take many years to recoup your training dollars.

    I will explain pay structure further if you would like. You will not make much money in the short term. After 10 years in the airlines you will start to see a pay back.
     
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    Angelica, welcome to POA. I'm a member of the LA chapter of the 99s and wanted to recommend the 99s for you but upon checking, it seems that there are no chapters near your location. But if you are ever in LA, you can attend any of our 99s meetings (held first Tuesdays of each month) and if you want, I'll gladly give you a sightseeing tour of the Hollywood sign :D

    Best of luck to you!
     
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    That will be awesome. I go quite often to visit my Grandpa. I did meet a few women in the 99s club here at school last week but, youre right, when I went online to find them there was no chapter here. Confusing :(
    I do plan on becoming a member of a flying club. The idea of helping others and having a support group is what I love about it.
     
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    If you want to get a jump start on ground school, I passed my PPL written with less than 3 hours of time logged by using fly8ma.com and reading the Airplane Flying Handbook (free at https://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/handbooks_manuals/aviation/airplane_handbook/)

    You will still need an endorsement from a CFI, but most CFI's are willing to endorse you if you can show that you are ready (mine had me take some online practice tests and endorsed me when I passed 3 with 80% or better)

    Generally, I don't recommend taking the PPL Written with as little flight time as I had because some things will not make sense while studying but will click in the air. Having said that, if you can't fly and are looking for a way to maintain momentum, you can pass the test with free resources.

    Also, look for flying clubs in your area in addition to flight schools. They will not advertise, but they often have cheaper planes although they may not have as much instructor availability. I found my club by trying to find and attend every EAA meeting within an hour drive.

    Edit: fly8ma.com offers a free online ground school, just to clarify
     
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    I laughed out loud and drew stares in a crowded airport gate at this line.


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    Angelica,
    I wish you the best on this path you’re starting down. There’s a Buddhist blessing that I think goes well here: “May you be well, may you be safe, may you be happy, and [my fav part] may things come easy for you.”


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    I grew up listening to the late, great Wes Montgomery nearly every day. My dad had dozens of reel-to-reel tapes and 95% of them were Wes. So when someone tries to imitate him, I pick up on it almost instantly!

    Never cared much for Kenny G's music (different strokes for different folks), but what really annoyed me and why I agree with Pat, is how he totally disrespected the late-great Louie Armstrong, by using his song... "What a wonderful world" as the backdrop for his (Gorelick's) own playing, in order to garner large numbers of sales/money. Lame is an understatement. https://rateyourmusic.com/release/single/kenny-g/what-a-wonderful-world/

    This is why I admire and respect Pat Metheny so much, in addition to just really loving his music (especially live in concert).
    http://hepcat1950.com/patonwes.html
    "PAT METHENY: When I was 13 years old and just starting, Wes was my first guitar-playing hero. A friend said I ought to check him out, so I got five or six of his records. The first one was The Wes Montgomery Trio [Riverside] with Melvin Rhyne and Paul Parker, which I listened to over and over again. The first thing I did was throw away my picks. I did everything I could to sound like Wes Montgomery. But when I started using my Wes stuff around Kansas City, I caught a major draft from the older guys for copying him. It forced me to realize that trying to imitate him wasn't musically good for me and it was even disrespectful."
    https://www.bing.com/search?q=wes+montgomery+wiki&FORM=QSRE3

    You can admire and learn from others and even copy some of their techniques, without being an outright thief!
    Not to prolong the thread drift, but that was an excellent point that was made a few post back (@MuseChaser), in reference to Kenny G. So I wanted to clarify a bit for those who may not know what it was all about.:)



     
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    +1 for Pat Metheny. So many great guitarists in different genres. But no one gets me into the headspace that Pat does.

    For the OP: I agree with others who recommended flying more often. I started training at GJT in 2008 and usually flew once a week. Progress was slow, but I made it to first solo. A lot of time spent just getting comfortable with the experience each flight. (Taking off and landing in a small aircraft is not a “normal” part of the human experience, to say nothing of stalls.) Then I moved to Dallas and eventually found a good instructor at Dallas Executive. But I had to get familiar with a new AC (Grumman Cheetahs, which are pretty neat, actually.) And I probably flew two or three hours a month, because of the usual two limiting factors—time and $$. At that rate, I really didn’t progress much at all. Then, due to unplanned expenses, I had to give it up completely.

    Learning to fly is not easy and it’s expensive. There’s nothing wrong with taking it slow, but since this is a career goal for you, I’d say you’re probably better off saving up as much money as you can for maybe a year so that when you start, you can fly three or four times a week.