Seriously Apple, slowing down older iphones?

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    That's what I love about open source. Very little bloat. ;)
     
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    Individual share price is meaningless. Only when you multiply share price times total outstanding shares do you get a somewhat meaningful number; ie, market cap.
     
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    I could quite honestly care less. I do know that as a shareholder, I’ve made one helluva lot more money on BA than Crapple.
     
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    Ok. I’m not trying to change your mind. Again I am not a huge Apple fan these days.

    That said, a lot more shareholder value has been created by apple than Boeing - as should be evident by the five times higher market cap. Share price, as JohnH mentions above, is really meaningless.

    Also, I think you mean you could NOT care less.
     
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    Also, also, are you saying you have been a shareholder of both Boeing and Apple over the same time period and have made more money on Boeing? It is possible depending on timing but if you look at overall performance, AAPL has crushed BA. Say what you will about their products but AAPL has been a phenomenal investment.

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    I want some of what you’re smoking.
     
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    Come'on DP, you know as well as I do that a UNIX/LINUX machine will run circles around anything MS based. Even MS admits it. :yesnod:
     
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    I have some bad news for you, Nate.

    Don't bogart it all, man!
     
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    But most of the country wants what you are smoking. LOL
     
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    I usually look up to you and respect your posts.
    But this is really hard to believe.
    Unless you mean you have bought a few Boeing airplanes and sold them for a whopping profit.
     
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    I bought BA at $60 per share.....
     
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    And yet people ware camping for days to buy a $1000 phone.
     
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    LOL. Not. But all they have to do is vote for it. They seem to like their war on a plant.

    After that first one, which was an event because it was something new, the rest of the campouts say much more about how boring their lives are, than anything about the stupid phone. LOL.
     
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    Whether they’ll run circles around other stuff isn’t really relevant as to whether or not they’re stuffed full of bloatware. LOL
     
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    Damn it. Leave me to my fantasies from back when that stuff was written in C in RAM so small people had to be good. :)
     
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    Good for you. That is 735% return which is terrific. But based on a quick scan, the last time BA traded at $60 was Feb 2010. If you bought a single BA share that day, it would be worth $295 now which is impressive. If you’d spent that $60 on AAPL stock it would be worth $362. So you didn’t make a hell of a lot more return on BA. You made less.
     
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    Does anyone know if the software slowdown effects all older phones, or does it detect battery strenght and if low, then perform the slowdown crap?
    If you have an older phone that is "slow" because of the software, would replacing the battery speed it back up?
     
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    JohnH - I tried to do some research on that question and couldn’t get a conclusive answer. As of right now, I don’t think anyone really knows (other than Apple). Really hope it’s the latter!
     
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    Yes. Replacing the battery speeds it back up.

    That is how the correlation was discovered in the first place:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/iphone/comments/7inu45/psa_iphone_slow_try_replacing_your_battery/
     
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    I agree with all you say here. I have been a Mac/Apple fan and user since pretty much the beginning. I have Apple everything in my house, but I am seriously losing faith in them as a company and do believe they are just in it now to milk this cash cow to death. It leaves a lot of us kind of lost. I still absolutely hate Windows 10. My experience many years ago with Android back when Apple wouldn't play nice with Verizon, was miserable and nothing I've seen has convinced me that android is any nicer now, but when I end up getting a new phone, I may well bite the bullet and switch. I'm also considering building a Hackintosh for my next lap top. That's where you buy a windows machine but install Apple OS on it.

    By the way, Apple has been doing this crappy strategy of slowing down their older desktop and lap top machines for years. They force you into a new OS and they make the new OS so big and bloated with "features" that it overwhelms the older machine's RAM and processors. I have had old machines turned into basically bricks by downloading the latest and greatest. They also make it as hard as possible to stay with the old OS. I suspect there is some of this in the Windows world too.

    Basically, there is a whole lot of fixin' of that which is not broke in the computer world. :mad:
     
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    And that's it right there. No matter how bad it gets, if you go by one of those Apple stores in the mall, the place is still packed with people. People still regard Apple as hip and cool and are willing to pay... for now.
     
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    I enjoy Apple Stores for the tech and ambiance.

    At least for me, hip and cool don’t enter into it.
     
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    I don’t think they’re doing it on purpose. I think Cook just doesn’t have the visionary talent that Jobs did. He’s a logistics guy. I can relate. But he’s in over his head and just repeating what he knows.

    It’s white MDF tables, a row of laptops, and a row of tablets and a row of (now outclassed) phones.

    What tech? Or I should say, what new tech? They’re hawking basically what they built five years ago or copied from Samsung (or bought from them in the case of the OLED displays, and they didn’t even get the best ones.)

    Oh, I forgot the cheaply built overpriced headphones... and Bluetooth earbuds... heh. Mmmm. Beats. LOL. Headphones that get a solid “beat” down by any pair of Sony studio headphones.
     
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    How's the KoolAid taste now, folks?
    Strictly from the standpoint of failing batteries, it's a smart thing to do.
    But Apple totally screwed the pooch by not announcing that this was what they were going to do.
    Their decision to withold/lie about it is ethically, morally and professionally bankrupt.
    Just my humble opinion.
     
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    So, in summary, Apple is becoming the Narco of smart devices.
     
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    I'm starting to believe that people go in there just to use the internet. You see their phones are just so damn slow now:D, so they go borrow a fast one!
     
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    Or Apple is the new Microsoft.
     
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