Roll-up OLED TV

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    I have to imagine there is *some* trade-off for that roll-up ability. It certainly adds a lot more complexity to the tv, and in the current form makes my HT audio a nightmare because of the built-in sound bar/no space to set a proper center channel or AVR. I get that it could be a solution for people who don't have a good place to wall-mount a TV, or like to re-arrange their living room, but it certainly doesn't add any value to me. LG does make some fantastic 4K OLED screens though, as Sony even uses LG's screen on their top-level televisions. I'll probably pick up their C8/C9 4K model in the next year to replace a 720p 42" Plasma screen from 2010. I'll probably go 65" when I make the upgrade, which won't require me to change anything but the TV since my AVR is already 4K compliant.
     
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    I suppose you could approximate the roll up feature a lot cheaper by building a cabinet where the TV slides down when you turn it off and rises up when you turn it on.

    I wonder how much something like that would cost?
     
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    It depends on what you mean by "complexity". The "O" part of OLED is "organic", the LEDs are made from any number of organic compounds rather than more traditional semiconductors. This allows them to be flexible and printed on a flexible plastic sheet. All of the circuitry outside of the display is the standard TV stuff.
     
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    I know what OLED is, but loss of screen rigidity, or simply using a different material than a traditional OLED display may cause artifacts in the picture quality. If your flexible OLED is stored in the retracted position for a few weeks, and you come home and extend it, will it retain any of the curvature from being stored? As the linked video stated, no one really knows at this point if there are any trade-offs in order to incorporate a retractable screen just yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if there's a least a few minor flaws that perhaps don't mean anything to the average consumer, but would be a non-starter for videophile/audiophile customers (the ones paying $15K+ for higher end A/V equipment)
     
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    They’re neat for sure. I can see them replacing projectors/screens in offices and classrooms down the road. That’s probably the real use case, for the price difference I don’t see any reason to get one where a far cheaper 4K LED tv works.
     
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    The guy who buys this will pick it up in his new GMC pickup with the articulating tailgate.
     
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    Football tailgating dream! lol.

    Well, OLED by its nature will produce a better picture than LED. No light bleed, no spotlighting/localized dimming issues, and the ability to truly "turn off" a pixel resulting in true blacks (much like a Plasma). OLED will likely replace LED in the end, but it's still more expensive at this point.
     
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    Time for an updated third panel:

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    All those times I was like “man, if only I could roll my TV up” lol
     
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    Haha. I guess you’re not buying one?

    I actually think it is pretty neat and would consider it since I rarely use my TV and don’t think it is particularly beautiful thing to look at on the wall. But I know some people who always have the TV on and how would get zero benefit from this.
     
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    For me it’s not that big of a deal, mine is already slim enough and I’m not going to unroll my TV like a old projector every time I want to flick it on, which isn’t often.

    I do leave it on my CCTV “channel” when I’m working on my computer or just hanging around, I’m odd like that lol
     
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    @asicer "TV Lifts" are old technology. A quick google search shows they are available for $2,000 and up. I bought my house and it came with a built in cabinet with a TV Lift in it. At that time it had an older CRT 36" tv in it. The cabinet is very large but its redeeming feature is that you don't see a TV in th room unless you are watching the TV. We have replaced that TV with a more modern (now 10 years old) 34" LED flat screen (the biggest tv that would fit in the rectangle opening at the time), but the giant cabinet is still there...

    Yes if you go DIY you can beat that price by a lot...

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    Michael Bublé? At least it was an aviation themed song... We don’t watch enough tv to have anything bigger or newer than a 10 yr old 40” Best Buy house brand flat screen. But if I had nothing to do, say I was a quadriplegic and all my other chores were done, maybe I’d watch more television. It’s really cool tech, though, no doubt about it!
     
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    Since nobody reads newspapers any more, is this what you roll up to swat your dog on the nose with when he messes on the carpet?

    o_O
     
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    I understand your your earlier comment better now. If "a different material than a traditional OLED display" means the flexible plastic that supports everything, I doubt it affects the picture display in, and of, itself; the OLEDs will still work and make the correct colors and brightness. However, I don't have an answer for whether it might take a set, and have curves after being stored, when it is opened again.
     
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    You got it. Even so, it's not a product I'll likely be buying now, or 10 years from now as I have a hard time spending more than $1-2K on a display. It is a great demonstration of the benefits of OLED displays and what could be done with them. I could see a time when my father will replace his 95" HT screen/1080p projector with a retractable OLED panel. His screen is in front of a small window which is blacked out to avoid light leaking into the theater room. Using a retractable setup might be able to make use of the window for natural light when the room is not in use for HT viewing. I'm sure they'll make some models which just have a shelving unit on the front (instead of the soundbar) to accommodate a large center channel.
     
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    It's possible the only trade-off is the very high premium. Quality is probably pretty good, because people don't spend 10-25K on TVs that don't work well.
     
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    Well, I know a few who spent $10-15K on Pioneer Plasma monitors (no speakers) in the late 90's when they first came out just to be the first early adopters of the tech. Not that Plasma wasn't good at that point, but those screens weren't worlds better than cheaper DLP TVs at that time, it was the form-factor they paid for. Either way, I hope all of the OLED stuff works out, because they are noticeably better in picture than most LED screens. The only real benefit LEDs can boast at this point over OLED is brightness, but unless you're watching TV in a sunroom/greenhouse, it's not something that really matters too much, even for HDR content unless you need 8-10K nits. OLEDs do bring back a slight risk of "burn in" like Plasmas used to with station logos/scroll bars, but it's a pretty small risk. I don't doubt that all sorts of appliances will start having front doors/materials replaced with OLEDs to display all sorts of unnecessary visual stuff, lol.
     
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