Rivets?

Rich Holt

Rich Holt

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I am not an A&P and have very little insight into the supply chain issues involved in that world. How hard are these rivets to get right now? Apparently, my AA5 needs about 7 of them, and work has been at a standstill for weeks awaiting the arrival of the mystical rivets.

NAS1097AD3 rivets

:sigh:
 
Do you know the length of the rivets you need? That spec is a shape and diameter spec, but doesn’t give length. If you know that, I might even have what you need.

The short answer is that a lot of RV builders will have these in shorter lengths and you should be able to buy them in bulk from Aircraft Spruce or other suppliers.
 
kyleb said:
Do you know the length of the rivets you need? That spec is a shape and diameter spec, but doesn’t give length. If you know that, I might even have what you need.

The short answer is that a lot of RV builders will have these in shorter lengths and you should be able to buy them in bulk from Aircraft Spruce or other suppliers.
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Bell206 said:
How long do you need them? All my normal suppliers are showing stock of the common lengths.
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Oops. I forgot the -4 bit. 1/4"
 
Both Wicks and Aircraft Spruce have them and they look to be in stock. It is a very common rivet. Its about $8 for a 1/8 pound bag and they can likely overnight ship them to you. If your A&P is telling you there is a multiple week delay in getting rivets you may want to have a talk with him.
 
kmacht said:
Both Wicks and Aircraft Spruce have them and they look to be in stock. It is a very common rivet. Its about $8 for a 1/8 pound bag and they can likely overnight ship them to you. If your A&P is telling you there is a multiple week delay in getting rivets you may want to have a talk with him.
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I think I will. Now to get him to answer the phone.
 
I am hosed similar to OP, my situation is for a CMI alternator coupling. ACS took my money in January, then moved the delivery date from early Feb to April. Their website occasionally shows the item in stock, and every time I call with a fresh howl of protest -- only to be told the website is incorrect and they have no actual stock.

Maddening times.
 
schmookeeg said:
only to be told the website is incorrect and they have no actual stock.
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Over the last year or so I've called for availability on every aircraft part I've ordered regardless of what it is before I hit the "place order" button. Interesting times we are still in.
 
Pretty sure I've got a bunch of these. How many do you need?

Edit: Oops. Just re-read your post. I'll go check the toolbox. We commonly referred to those as "oops rivets", used when you accidentally oversized one #40 hole in a line of them... drill it out to #30 and use these. They don't have the holding power of a regular AN426-AD3 rivet due to the reduced head, but they look better than a single AN426-AD4 in a line of AD3s. I also found them to be really nice for mounting plate nuts.

I'll go see what I've got. I don't need them any more.
 
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After an unannounced visit yesterday, I was able to corner the mech and get a few questions answered. The aircraft should be back on the flight line early next week. I have no words. Also, the company will not accept a CC for payment. I consulted the calendar, it still reads 2022.

"When one door opens, another one closes. Other than that, it's a great Cessna."
 
It looks like you've got what you need. In the future, if you have an EAA chapter near you, make a request to the president - I'm about 99.999% sure someone in your local chapter has them and can spare 7 rivets.
 
Rich Holt said:
the company will not accept a CC for payment. I consulted the calendar, it still reads 2022.
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FYI: regardless if its 2022 there are still a number of shops/businesses that do not accept CC due to the transaction costs and hassle in some cases. So unless you have a high volume of CC payments or your customers don't balk at pays the transaction fees then sure. I offered CC payments for 2 years at the request of my customers. But once I started adding $0.25 + 3% to their bills they decided check or cash was better so I drop the service.
 
Bell206 said:
FYI: regardless if its 2022 there are still a number of shops/businesses that do not accept CC due to the transaction costs and hassle in some cases. So unless you have a high volume of CC payments or your customers don't balk at pays the transaction fees then sure. I offered CC payments for 2 years at the request of my customers. But once I started adding $0.25 + 3% to their bills they decided check or cash was better so I drop the service.
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"Loads of elevators play Celine Dion - that don't make it right."
-Fish
 
I guess I'm lucky, everyone I know at the Juneau airport is more than willing to share hardware as long as you replace it. If I don't have it Joe, Phil, tall Joe, Butch, Branden or Adam most likely does
 
Sounds like "we are short 7 rivets" was code for "we are short interest or time to complete the job" or "something more immediately-paying arrived and we dropped everything to chase the dollar and make rent, existing clients be damned and delayed"

Welcome to aviation :D
 
kmacht said:
Both Wicks and Aircraft Spruce have them and they look to be in stock. It is a very common rivet. Its about $8 for a 1/8 pound bag and they can likely overnight ship them to you. If your A&P is telling you there is a multiple week delay in getting rivets you may want to have a talk with him.
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He's likely ordering from a place that gives him credit.
 
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