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  1. Morgan3820

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    OK, located at New Bern in the path of Florence. I moved the Arrow out of harms way earlier today. But I a cannot move the hanger. I rent an open T hanger when there aren't any hurricanes around. It is on the corner, exposed to the east. If the hanger gets flattened, likely scenario. I have no other place to go and I do not see replacement hangers built anytime soon.
    I was thinking of renting a UHaul truck or two and parking them in front of the hanger to take the hit from the wind. These hangers have been around over thirty years so they have seen plenty of wind but nothing quite this big. The tenant before me said he did it whenever a storm came. If the trucks get blown around it will likely damage the hangers and probably land me in hot water with someone.

    Is this a stupid idea?
     
  2. eman1200

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    Yes
     
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    Your instinct to protect is good but when Mother Nature gets going all you can do is duck and cover. Plane is safe, ok. now your hangar belongs to the insurance company. Stay safe, you and your family.

    -Skip
     
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    Worry about the plane,hope for the best with the hangar.
     
  5. asicer

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    When you ask this question, 95% of the time you already know the answer.
     
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  6. benyflyguy

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    Now imagine if those trucks take off and damage something that is not yours?.??
     
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    A U-Haul truck is not going to prevent Mother Nature from tearing up your hangar, unfortunately.

    We had a series of tornadoes blast through here in ‘11 and there wasn’t a single structure that could withstand them. Large billboards alongside the interstate were split in half like a popsicle stick.

    Now, with that being said, my family owns a mini storage business in the area and we also rent U-Haul trucks and trailers. If you were to rent a truck and purchase the Safe Move Plus Insurance which covers the entire truck and includes medical life protection and up to $1M in liability coverage for any damage that may occur to someone else’s property and of course you wouldn’t be liable for any damage to the truck.

    I wouldn’t do it. So is it a silly, dumb idea? Yes it is.
     
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    You'll have much better luck with a Penske.
     
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    We just had a tornado touch down here in PA, a rarity, that picked up uhaul trucks and tossed them 500-1000yards up the road. Took out a furniture store, Barnes and Nobles, strip mall.... the sign for Dicks sporting goods was found 10 miles a way up a hill. but in the middle of it all, the little roadside flower tent was unharmed!!!
     
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    Same thing happened here back in '11. There was a billboard sign for Cracker Barrel found several (10+) miles from its origin on top of someone's home (or what was left of it). When I saw it from the air a few days later, I couldn't believe that the tornado had carried it that far! Never try to beat the abilities of Mother Nature, because she'll always win!
     
  11. Morgan3820

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    OK, stupid idea. The hangar may yet survive. It has been there a long time. The winds are supposed to start NNE. Maybe by the time they get around to the SE, they will be less strong. The tiedowns should still be there.
     
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    Quick answer: Waffles.

    Might be too late but load up the roof with filled sandbags.

    The U-Haul might be a good idea if the box is full of weight, like wet sandbags. I parked my truck next to my 5th wheel one night when we were getting sustained 70 MPH winds and the trailer was getting hit broad side. I don't know if it helped but it stopped it from rocking and swaying so bad.
     
  13. Morgan3820

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    I have been through a couple of dozen of these things, but this one has me real concerned. Unfortunately, I can't leave. Wife is a nurse at the hospital. She has to report for the duration of the emergency.
     
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    Will be thinking of you folks. My prediction is that it loses steam as it gets closer to the coast (CAT3 or lower).
     
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    I hope you are right. I tend to agree. I think it will be more of a flooding event than anything else. Just a WAG on my part.
     
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    The truck rental insurance will be worthless. Insurance policies are worthless when known mayhem is about to occur.

    Plane on buy 2 new trucks for UHaul.
     
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    WAGs are pretty useless. In times of uncertainty prepare for the worse. Of course hope for the best, but Mother Nature will have her way, for better or worse.

    For the OP, just worry about things that can’t be replaced. Putting more material property that doesn’t belong to you in place to protect additional material property is a stupid idea.

    For reference, I have experienced two typhoons while in Guam. The first was just me getting on the ship and fleeing for fair waters. The second I was on baby duty while the wife was hunkered down at her shore duty station. None of it is pleasant. But your idea isn’t really going to work. Likely the truck will cause as much (or more) damage.
     
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    Stupid? No. Ineffective? Yeah.
     
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    Stupidly ineffective, maybe?


    I kid!
     
  20. A1Topgun

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    This morning's 5 AM hurricane report has it dropping to a Cat 2 by the time it makes landfall. Hopefully with the winds dropping quickly as it moves inland the hangar may survive.
     
  21. Morgan3820

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    IMG_0372.JPG IMG_0373.JPG FYI. The hanger survived with only minor damage. Wish I could say the same about the tools in my workshop.
     
  22. GaryV

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    Looks like a mess but glad it’s still standing. Did you get any flooding?
     
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    As long as nothing got wet, you'll be alright. Just some extra picking up and putting away to do.
     
  24. Morgan3820

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    It all was submerged. Hard to see the 5 ft high water mark. Still better off than many.
     
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    So sorry to hear that Morgan
    I got hit by Harvey last year and still haven’t been able to move out of our loft and back downstairs. Let me know if you want to talk about the insurance process. We’ve had much more experience than we ever wanted to have.

    For now be sure to get photos of every item before you move it out for disposal. People will haul off stuff you put out by the road so try to get photos before you move things out. You’ll need to send in photos of every item you claim and will need to include the serial numbers of any item that had one. The more detail you have the easier it will be to get paid.

    Get a call in to the insurance carrier early. They don’t want you tearing out sheetrock until the adjuster has been there and it tends to be first come first served. If they can’t get to you in a reasonable time try to find an area of one wall (possibly the garage) that you can leave until they get there so they can see the water line for themselves.

    If you know contractors also call them. When such a large area is hit it gets hard to find local contractors and again it tends to be first come first served. It took 4 months to get our first bids.

    Good luck. It’s a long process but hopefully everything will turn out better than before the flood when it’s all done.

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    It’s the water thatll get you.

    I’d also think a empty uhaul might get moved around more than your hangar

    Also I could see knowingly putting a uhaul into a position you knew it would get damaged both being morally reprehensible as well as legally questionable, as well as it won’t even help you.

    What would you think if I asked to use your plane only to use your arrow as a shield to protect my plane?
     
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    I'll reinforce that. When Matthew ripped up my Lanai, I waited one day before I called my Screen guy. He said it would be 3 months before he could get to me. He also said that if I wasn't a existing customer, he wouldn't even be able to put my name on the list. I decided to call around to find someone sooner. None of the local contractors could do any better. In fact, most of them told me they couldn't help me at all, but I could call back in a year or two.

    So the next day, I called my guy back. He now said it would be 6 months because he had hundreds of calls in the past 24 hours, and his phone was still ringing off the wall. So I scheduled him to come as soon as he could. It turned out to be around 9 months. And we were lucky.
     
  28. Tom-D

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    I feel sorry for those who just withstood Florence, and the damage the storms caused.

    Now I know why I live where we do, we've had less than .5" of rain during the period of 1 April and 1 Sept.
    The only killer weather we have is grey, it will bore ya to death.
     
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    Well Greg and Sharon are there now, just went thru this one, understand all is well.
     
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    In 2003 Lake Hood in Anchorage had a wind storm with official recorded sustained winds to 117mph. My Cessna was parked outside with the wind quartering from the right rear. By the time I had the opportunity to spin it to the wind it was too dangerous to untie it. Debris and airplane parts were flying by so I parked my company Freightliner delivery truck upwind to protect the plane. My Cessna survived while lots of other planes nearby didn't. I've done it again since, too. These days when I'm traveling my driver knows what to do when big winds blow.
     
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    Later. 96-98. But deployed out to japan half the time. Best snorkeling I’ve experienced.