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Discussion in 'Lessons Learned' started by luvflyin, May 23, 2019.

  1. luvflyin

    luvflyin Final Approach

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    It was no flap landings. Hadn’t done one in a long, long time so decided to do some on a Flight Review. When I caught up to the plane, luckily it hadn’t run off the end of the runway. What I found out is the big problem was I had become to use to the ‘sight picture’ of normal landings and didn’t adjust. Gotta look at the airspeed and pull that nose up to get where you need to be, even if it looks funny. I’ll be practicing them a little more often in the future. My attitude about ‘practice’ has improved. Unlike Allen.

     
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    midlifeflyer Final Approach

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    My first question to a pilot in a flight review. "What do you feel you need to work on?"

    Sounds like you had a ready answer. :)
     
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    luvflyin Final Approach

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    Yeah. When someone said no flap landings in the other thread it hit me right away that I hadn’t done one in ages
     
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    Caramon13 Pattern Altitude

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    Wait a minute, you're supposed to use flaps when you land????!? I've been doing it wrong all these years..
     
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    Kenny Phillips Pattern Altitude

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    I think that 99% of my no-flap landings involved a slip.
     
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    luvflyin Final Approach

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    luvflyin Final Approach

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    I was doin a foot to the floor slip on final on the first one and still couldn’t get it down. Slipping is routine for me flaps or not. I use them for collision avoidance, like to get the cowl outta the way so I can see what’s in front of and below me.
     
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    Ryanb Final Approach PoA Supporter

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    Must’ve been carrying too much energy.
     
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    luvflyin Final Approach

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    Way to much.
     
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    midlifeflyer Final Approach

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    Because you wanted to or because you needed to?
     
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    PaulS Final Approach

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    Actually most of my no flap landings have not required a slip, not that I'm opposed to do one if I need to. But careful speed control on descent seems to work well.
     
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    midlifeflyer Final Approach

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    That's exactly why I asked @Kenny Phillips the question. Other than training or practice - when I want to - none of my no-flap landings have required an altitude loss slip either. If my landing requires a slip for altitude loss, I've already gone to full flaps and found it to be not enough.
     
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    If I'm in a 172, I find that if I do a no-flaps landing I have to have the spoilers deployed, plus full reverse thrust on touchdown if I expect to not run off the runway.

    In the Arrow, I just throw the gear switch and it's like the cable in the elevator broke.
     
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    If you have not done no flap landings in a long while, check your poh for stall speeds. In a Cherokee they increase from 57 to 67 mph. Have fun !
     
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    Both, but I usually wanted to. I don't like to drag 'em in, so in windy conditions it may require a slip. For a good crosswind component, this is also a good setup for landing.
     
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    I never used flaps in the Cessna 120 - didn't seem like a problem to me.
     
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    MauleSkinner Final Approach

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    I tried a couple times, but with no checkout in the airplane, I couldn’t find the flap handle. :rolleyes:
     
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