Plane Crash In Bonita Springs, FL (1/22/18) (Daniel Bernath / aka danielabernath)

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  1. GlideDarling

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    I can't post a link, since I'm new, but no one has mentioned this, yet. Rumor has it that it's the same pilot that posted here trying to defend his low fuel lawsuit a few years back.
     
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    Odd first post. An fatal accident and a vague reference to someone from a few years ago on POA. Maybe a regular or former POA member with an agenda hiding behind another ID.
     
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    I have no agenda. I normally stick to websites about gliding. I knew of the decedent through a non-airline related website and, while searching for the followup to his lawsuit, stumbled across this website.
     
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    Not that anything in the media is to be trusted, but there is an odd item in this report: http://www.winknews.com/2018/01/23/type-plane-involved-deadly-crash-identified/

    "Air traffic audio captured the pilot arguing with the ground controller, requesting to fly 8,000 feet to the Everglades City Airport. Experts say the pilot should’ve known to fly lower.

    “'He has requested 8,000 feet for a cruising altitude which is way to high for that short of a distance also it is the wrong altitude for that direction of flight,' said Robert Katz, commercial pilot and certified flight instructor."
     
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    okay, I'll bite... who's the guy, or POA handle?
     
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    A quote from Henning to the decedent:

    "You really must start to think for yourself. If you are cheap and lazy of thought and effort, aviation will kill you. Even if you win this suit, if you do not change your mindset, you will die a multi millionaire in the not too distant future."
     
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    Did you find the verdict? Who had to get out their checkbooks?
     
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    Henning called it
     
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    Wow. It was him! I first learned about this guy at the SportPilotTalk board, during his infamous lawsuit proceedings. Can't say I'm surprised at the outcome.
     
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    Wow! Did the other thread say where he got his training from?
     
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    Looks like it might have been a machete....
     
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    I think he might have used the "Fly by Placard" method.
     
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    So did he die a multi-millionaire or did he die a dismissed plaintiff?

    You don't read news in the paper (or some sensationalist tabloid) about thousands of pilots who determined he was getting low on fuel, landed, bought more, continued and arrived SAFELY at his destination with plenty of reserve.
    You only read news about those who give us a bad name. Good news does not sell, good news is boring to the dumb general populace.
    Sad state of affairs.
    And sad death. Absolutely preventable. :(
     
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    Consolidated info at Kathryn's Report website.

    Wow, so it was this guy. When I started training, I remember reading about him and his low fuel incident in his CTsw.
     
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    Not just a trouble maker in aviation, but in other areas as well. There are certain circles that would be happy to **** on his grave:

    Daniel Bernath

    Noah W
     
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    Wow. Seems like karma finally caught up.
     
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    Wow, this guy was a real piece of work.


    On the aviation side of things, how about how to use iPad GPS ground speed as a substitute for air speed in the landing flare?

    Everyone makes the world a little better place, some by being in it and some by leaving it...
     
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    I was wondering the same thing.

    Maybe the last crash was going to be a new lawsuit....
     
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    (Momentary thread interruption) FINALLY that site has a photo of Kathryn!
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    As a pervert, evidently...

    "He was arrested in Virginia Dec. 2016 on multiple charges of stalking and violating a protective order"
     
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    Yep, addition by subtraction - that guy had no redeemable qualities.
     
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    Simply wow ...

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    Anyone have a link to the audio of this?
     
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    For anyone not visiting the linked thread, here's one of my posts to it:

    I'll try to put this delicately...

    Since we're now in the "Safety Corner", my concern goes beyond someone using a groundspeed display as a landing aid, or to use GPS groundspeed to avoid stalling. Many experienced pilots and instructors here have already deemed these actions unsafe, and they are - for easily seen reasons.

    The flight instructors here have all been taught to look for certain "Hazardous Attitudes" in our students, other pilots and even ourselves.

    They are: Macho, Anti-Authority, Invulnerability, Impulsivity, and Resignation.

    ussyorktown's response to the advice here falls, I think, into the "Anti-Authority" attitude. The snarky and sarcastic comebacks are not indicative of an open mind that really wants to learn. Similarly, his reluctance to engage at least one instructor here (me) by responding to his questions seems to me to not be conducive to learning. And pilots should always be learning, whether they have 50 or 5,000 hours.

    I took the time to engage and put forth questions and thought experiments that might have led ussyorktown to that "Aha!" moment that instructor's yearn to provoke in their students. If that effort is for naught, well, so be it. All I can do is try.
     
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    I'm going to go with "pilot error" on this one.

    Too soon?
     
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    CFI and DPE errors. This guy should never have been issued a certificate. (I wonder if he threatened a lawsuit to get it...)
     
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    I often think about that too.
    But sometimes people can act smart around CFIs and DPEs to get what they want.
     
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    There's audio. It's up on other websites. I still can't link. Kathryn's pretty much sums up most of the wheres/whens.
     
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    What do you suggest?
     
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    In the linked thread, Bernath said: “Fear not. I shall never be mentioned in a NTSB report.”

    This makes the second.

    Add “Invulnerability” to the Hazardous Attitudes he exhibited.
     
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