Pilots Subpoenaed in Sex Trafficking Case

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********. I want to know what happened to a criminal sysadmin working for an untouchable. Doesn’t matter which untouchable he was working for.
Which, of course, is why you mentioned that “untouchable” by name several times in your post.
 
"Rant" is in the same category as "hater". Both words apply to any objection or observation, no matter how mild, that's contrary to the opinion of the person applying the label.
Ad hominem.
 
I was a bit surprised that this thread stayed civil as long as it did. I'm glad it did, though.
 
You use that word yet you don't seem to know what it means.

I'll use examples:

Ad hominem: You are an idiot !

Opinion: Anyone who gets butt-hurt about criticism is an idiot !
I know exactly what an ad hominem is: an attack against the person and not the argument. Like the post I quoted, for example. And we know it’s a high-minded discussion when people toss out such brilliant terms as “butt-hurt”. My butt is fine. That post was an ad hominem.
 
I know exactly what an ad hominem is: an attack against the person and not the argument. Like the post I quoted, for example. And we know it’s a high-minded discussion when people toss out such brilliant terms as “butt-hurt”. My butt is fine. That post was an ad hominem.

You use that word yet you don't seem to know what it means.

I'll use examples:

Ad hominem: You are an idiot !

Opinion: Only millennial snowflakes would get upset about a word like 'butt' !
 
From the Department of Redundancy Department:

You use that word yet you don't seem to know what it means.

I'll use examples:

Ad hominem: You are an idiot !

Opinion: Anyone who gets butt-hurt about criticism is an idiot !
 
The new normal seems to be that anything not on the approved speech list is 'hate' and therefore cause for great offense.

Sometimes repetition is necessary until the point is understood.

Airplanes !!

And then again, some people are just...functional idiots.
 
So, a couple of questions for anyone who cares to answer:

If you were regularly providing pilot services to a rich guy, and you noticed that a lot of the passengers appeared to be underage girls, would you suspect that there was something wrong?

If so, what would you do about it?
 
If you were regularly providing pilot services to a rich guy, and you noticed that a lot of the passengers appeared to be underage girls, would you suspect that there was something wrong?

Unless there is a ready explanation, e.g. the girls being part of his daughters ballet company, yes. If they are all czech or russian 'models' who get flown to 'auditions' on the bosses island, I would probably suspect something.

If so, what would you do about it?

Sit down with my defense attorney, HSI and the responsible assistant US attorney under a proffer agreement and give them the goods on my boss.
 
What does "HSI" refer to in that context?
 
What does "HSI" refer to in that context?

Homeland Security Investigations. The human trafficking people.

Or maybe I would just tell one of a number of folks I know in the agency...
 
So, a couple of questions for anyone who cares to answer:

If you were regularly providing pilot services to a rich guy, and you noticed that a lot of the passengers appeared to be underage girls, would you suspect that there was something wrong?
How would the underage girls appear? Like, say, the ones you visualize or other ones acting and looking like they are older?
 
The new normal seems to be that anything not on the approved speech list is 'hate' and therefore cause for great offense.

Sometimes repetition is necessary until the point is understood.

Airplanes !!
Speaking of logical fallacies, that's a strawman.
 
Speaking of logical fallacies, that's a strawman.

What's the logical fallacy ?








Note, you are the one who got bent out of shape about Nate's post, not me.
 
What's the logical fallacy ?








Note, you are the one who got bent out of shape about Nate's post, not me.
I haven’t gotten bent of shape in the slightest.
 
How about we just end the playground spat and let the thread go off the rails on in its own.
 
Speaking of unproductive use of assets, I've heard talk of electricity demand for Bitcoin mining becoming significant.
What does that even mean?? I heard ppl use the computers to “mine” for it. But what is actually happening??
 
Which, of course, is why you mentioned that “untouchable” by name several times in your post.

Oh ok.

“I’d like to know what the random unidentified sysadmin who worked for random unidentified untouchable with ties to this alleged kiddy diddler who tried to hang himself in his jail cell, is up to these days, and how one exists after doing things like that — do they give you money? A nice place to live?”

Better?

Gimme a break. We all know who the names involved are. It’s not like they’re any surprise to anyone. I’d be in jail already if I did anything like that sysadmin did, out here in the real world, so I’m honestly curious.

That you’re sensitive to mentioning names that were all over the press cycle and named in the public records case against the guy, is cute, but irrelevant.

It’s not like she’s a relevant politician anymore... that was over with a couple of years ago. Chillin’ in the fundraiser circuit now. I don’t think I’m harming her shot at anything at this point.
 
Here’s a high-level synopsis. The details are not correct but it shows the general idea.

Suppose you have a bunch of people who own different amounts of a crypto currency. Bitcoin is one kind, Facebook and others are introducing Libra. And there are many others. Just like with real money it isn’t intrinsically worth anything. Its only value is in what the people who hold it are willing to trade if for. Unlike with real money other people know how much crypto currency you own. Although in this case you are completely anonymous so they don’t know who you are just who you present yourself as on the currency exchange. That’s why you get ransom demands in you junk mail payable in Bitcoin and there have been some high-profile ransom demands where governments and companies have had there data encrypted and must pay a ransom to get the decryption key. You can pay others and receive payments for others and the ledger of who owns what is updated and everyone gets a copy.

Just like with real money, it can be created as well. Unlike with governments cranking up the printing press, anyone can create new coin. Really simply, you run a lot of calculations on the history of the transactions. Some of the calculations will be lucky numbers and you if you find them you end up with a small amount of new coin. Then you ask everyone else to update their ledgers to reflect the fact that you have a bigger balance. The reason it works it that it takes a very long time to run the algorithms to create new coins but relatively small amount of time to verify that you did in fact create some coin and are not scamming the system. If everyone agrees then the ledger is updated. And when the ledgers are updated then you need to start your calculations over again, so if you are too slow you don’t win.

It’s something like this: What are the prime factors of 29029? It will take you a while to figure it out, but if I tell you that they are 7,11,13, and 29 you can quickly verify that they are indeed the prime factors.

This is similar to the encryption algorithms that are used in secure messaging. Fairly time consuming to encrypt. Impossible to decrypt unless you know the secret key. But easy to decrypt if you know the key.
 
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Ad hominem.

Nooooo, it's an observation. Notice the a complete absence of any reference to you.

If I said something like "Some people are always quick to display the indignation they wear on their sleeve, and it's rather tiresome.", you might construe that as a personal attack too, but it's also an observation.
 
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Legitimate question - as a pilot flying some rich guy’s plane, do you know who is on the plane? Seems like it isn’t your job to keep track of that, other than knowing how many people are on board?
 
If they did any international flights, they will have the names and birth dates of all passengers. It would be pretty obvious if there were any minors without their parents on board.
Technically yes but theoretically no. They dont search the plane too much especially coming out of the US or even coming into (I dont know about any other country). You could smuggle anything in a private jet. US customs is a joke when they come into the US. They just walk around the airplane with this electronic box (probably does nothing) that they wave around the plane. They go inside the cabin and do a head count and ask a few questions but they dont really look through anything. Its easy I am assuming Especially in a large cabin which he probably owned. I never understood why security isn't stiffer at these FBO's. Hell at KATL (busiest airport in the US) signature they are more strict with technicians going out on the ramp then pilots. You could dress up as a pilot and rattle of an N-Number and they will let you go out on the ramp without a badge or escort (just a crew badge (which you could make on at fed ex for 5 dollars!!!)).....ssoooooooo.there you go!

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Just like with real money, it can be created as well. Unlike with governments cranking up the printing press, anyone can create new coin. Really simply, you run a lot of calculations on the history of the transactions. Some of the calculations will be lucky numbers and you if you find them you end up with a small amount of new coin. Then you ask everyone else to update their ledgers to reflect the fact that you have a bigger balance. The reason it works it that it takes a very long time to run the algorithms to create new coins but relatively small amount of time to verify that you did in fact create some coin and are not scamming the system. If everyone agrees then the ledger is updated. And when the ledgers are updated then you need to start your calculations over again, so if you are too slow you don’t win.

While I have a Finance degree, I've never really looked into the crypto-currencies much. I still don't grasp why "mining" for bitcoin (or whichever brand of crypto-currency) equates to the money supply increasing. Obviously there are numerous factors that go into a traditional currency money supply being adjusted. I have a hard time equating expensive computers crunching numbers for days equating to new currency being created. I don't see where the value is made. There has been a marked impact on certain computer component demand/pricing in the free market, in order to build and maintain those mining machines. High-end GPUs and such have seen their prices skyrocket over the past few years due to the mining operations, so at least something material is being generated from that demand, lol.
 
While I have a Finance degree, I've never really looked into the crypto-currencies much. I still don't grasp why "mining" for bitcoin (or whichever brand of crypto-currency) equates to the money supply increasing. Obviously there are numerous factors that go into a traditional currency money supply being adjusted. I have a hard time equating expensive computers crunching numbers for days equating to new currency being created. I don't see where the value is made. There has been a marked impact on certain computer component demand/pricing in the free market, in order to build and maintain those mining machines. High-end GPUs and such have seen their prices skyrocket over the past few years due to the mining operations, so at least something material is being generated from that demand, lol.

It’s literally being made. There’s no inflationary or other games that can be played with it to make more of it out of nothing, like a non-digital fiat currency. The physical bits have to be created. To create dollars, all the Fed has to do is change their overnight rate. They don’t even have to print much more actual currency, since the vast majority of our “money” is just numbers in a computer these days. To own a Bitcoin you need the actual encrypted bits. To own a dollar all you need is a bank to say you have it.

Right there with ya on the whole value thing though. If it cost you more in equipment and electricity to produce a product of any sort, that’s a loss and not a profit. The time to be in cryptomining was back when it was easy and your machine spat out worthless ones every few weeks. There’s a few miners who carefully track equipment costs and power usage and make a little profit at it. Most are just burning extra coal. Literally.

But hey, so are all the data centers that keep the “work” Silicon Valley greenie’s employer’s businesses alive, so pretty normal for tech. They pretend to be green while the toxic stuff from making the servers is dumped over in Asia. That cargo ship ride the electronics all take, washes away all sins, you know. LOL.

The one major tech benefit to the silliness has been the figuring out and increased use of genetic GPUs for certain types of math crunching. That used to take years of design work and an ASIC.
 
Nooooo, it's an observation. Notice the a complete absence of any reference to you.

If I said something like "Some people are always quick to display the indignation they wear on their sleeve, and it's rather tiresome.", you might construe that as a personal attack too, but it's also an observation.
When it’s in direct response to someone it’s an ad hominem. Otherwise why quote me?

Stop playing the logical fallacy games, I know them all.
 
Oh ok.

“I’d like to know what the random unidentified sysadmin who worked for random unidentified untouchable with ties to this alleged kiddy diddler who tried to hang himself in his jail cell, is up to these days, and how one exists after doing things like that — do they give you money? A nice place to live?”

Better?

Gimme a break. We all know who the names involved are. It’s not like they’re any surprise to anyone. I’d be in jail already if I did anything like that sysadmin did, out here in the real world, so I’m honestly curious.

That you’re sensitive to mentioning names that were all over the press cycle and named in the public records case against the guy, is cute, but irrelevant.

It’s not like she’s a relevant politician anymore... that was over with a couple of years ago. Chillin’ in the fundraiser circuit now. I don’t think I’m harming her shot at anything at this point.
And what in God’s name does a a Systems Administrator have to do with aviation? It’s just a typical political rant, which are supposedly not allowed around here. But because it was a conservative political rant it’s fine.

Can we just stick to aviation? And not weirdo right-wing conspiracies?
 
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And what in God’s name for a a Systems Administrator have to do with aviation? It’s just a typical political rant, which are supposedly not allowed around here. But because it was a conservative political rant it’s fine.

Relax man, it's not political. It's @denverpilot . He rants about everything. He's an equal opportunity hater. :)
 
Stop playing the logical fallacy games, I know them all.
You may know their names but it doesn’t seem that you understand them. Ad Hominem isn’t even necessarily a fallacy.
 
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