Pilots Bill of Rights 2 introduced in House and Senate

You either lead or get swept up. The FAAS being a beaurocratic agency. Is an example of a govt. Agency that doesn't want to upset anyone so they will let the legislature do their work.
 
Re: Pilots Bill of Rights 2 introduced in House and Senate (3rd class medical related

I hope they ram this down the FAA's throat!
 
There is a lot more to the new bill than is mentioned by AOPA:

Section 1 – Title. Pilot’s Bill of Rights 2

Section 2 – Language expands the Federal Aviation Administration’s (FAA) 3rd class medical exemption for light sport aircraft to cover most small general aviation (GA) aircraft. It would also prohibit enforcement of violations if FAA has not complied with these provisions within 180 days of enactment.

Section 3 – Language reigns in Customs and Border Patrol (CBP) stops and searches of GA by requiring CBP to follow general law enforcement standards when exercising its powers.

Section 4 – Language provides local airport offices to manage the use of private hangars at airports. Current law gives federal officials and Washington the ability to dictate what does and doesn’t happen inside a hangar; this section changes that problem.

Section 5 – Opens a dialogue on language that will make it easier to install new, safety enhancing equipment on existing aircraft without going through a lengthy, expensive certification process.

Section 6 – Language expands on the Pilot’s Bill of Rights by:

a. Subsections a-b. - Explicitly states that pilots facing an investigation by FAA can appeal the issue directly to a federal district court for a de novo trial. This provision of the original Pilot’s Bill of Rights has not operated as intended.

c. Subsection c. - Expands the protections of the Pilot’s Bill of Rights to other certificate holders in the aviation community, such as charter operators or repair stations.

d. Subsection d. - Requires FAA to provide notification to an individual once they become subject to an FAA investigation; if FAA does not provide notification, they cannot press charges.

e. Subsection e. - Limits scope of FAA’s document requests of certificate holders to the pertinent issues being investigated.

f. Subsection f. - Reinstates FAA’s expungement policy, preventing the agency from retaining records of enforcement against an airmen certificate holder after retaining it for 5 years. Also prohibits the retention of records beyond 90 days if the agency does not take enforcement action. Further prevents the FAA from publicizing pending enforcement actions against a covered certificate holder.

Section 7 – Prohibits enforcement of NOTAM violations if FAA has not finished its NOTAM improvement program by the end of the year.

Section 8 – Language requires contract towers and other outsourced FAA programs to be subject to FOIA requests.

Section 9 – Language provides civil liability protection to aviation medical examiners and other FAA reps, treating them as government employees as the proscribed duties are carried out.
http://www.inhofe.senate.gov/newsro...ofe-seeks-comments-on-pilots-bill-of-rights-2
 
Thanks to auntpeggy. For anyone that doesn't want to read the bill. A nice synopsis of the bill. Not only hope it passes,contact your local legislators.
 
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Maybe if Congress were to smoke some of the pot legal in Washington they might mellow out and get something done.:popcorn:
 
Re: Pilots Bill of Rights 2 introduced in House and Senate (3rd class medical related

Just curious, would an actual physical letter mailed to them get more attention than an email? I'm almost thinking a FedEx envelope with the letter might get even _more_ attention.

Thoughts?
 
BTW, does anyone else think $5 to register your plane is rediculously low? Been that low for at least 20 years. Should be $50 a year to help offset costs to the FAA. :yes:

Why exactly do I need to register my aircraft on a continuing basis? If I tell them I bought it and tell them when I sell (or crash) it they know to whom the aircraft belongs.
 
BTW, does anyone else think $5 to register your plane is rediculously low? Been that low for at least 20 years. Should be $50 a year to help offset costs to the FAA. :yes:

Anyone who thinks the federal government needs more of our money well.....:mad2::mad2::mad2:
 
Why exactly do I need to register my aircraft on a continuing basis? If I tell them I bought it and tell them when I sell (or crash) it they know to whom the aircraft belongs.

Hence why we had 20,000 "ghost" airplanes on the registry. :rolleyes:

It needs to be current for national security.
 
Anyone who thinks the federal government needs more of our money well.....:mad2::mad2::mad2:

I believe in paying my own way. Clearly, $5 every 3 years is rediculous. The registration branch should be self supporting from users.
 
I believe in paying my own way. Clearly, $5 every 3 years is rediculous. The registration branch should be self supporting from users.

Your logic is flawed. If you want to defund the FAA and then add in fees for everything then fine but that is not how it works. Also as stated above why not just do it at the point of sale or destruction? Otherwise it is just a money grab.

I am all for use fees when we aren't already being taxed to pay for stuff. Until then I say giving the corrupt crooks in Washington one more dime to squander is nothing but foolish waste.

ETA: Think of all the money they could save by eliminating the class 3 medical. I bet it would pay for decades of registrations with just one years worth of savings.
 
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Hence why we had 20,000 "ghost" airplanes on the registry. :rolleyes:

It needs to be current for national security.

oh my goodness. how is "ghost" aircraft on the registry a risk at all?

seriously. Other than the algorithmic purity of the database, what possible justification could there be to care about "ghost" aircraft?
 
oh my goodness. how is "ghost" aircraft on the registry a risk at all?

seriously. Other than the algorithmic purity of the database, what possible justification could there be to care about "ghost" aircraft?

Reregistration was a solution in search of a problem.
 
oh my goodness. how is "ghost" aircraft on the registry a risk at all?

seriously. Other than the algorithmic purity of the database, what possible justification could there be to care about "ghost" aircraft?

Why is it a good thing to have a registration system to keep track of aircraft when it is wholly inaccurate? Seems pretty sloppy to me.

Don't you think it is a little late to argue the merits of a regulation that has already passed and has been in force for 5 years? Take it up with the FAA, not me.:rolleyes:
 
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So can someone tell me how are national security is enhanced by the registry? For decades it was what it was and what exactly happened because planes were not registered properly?

If I were in nefarious mood can I not just steal a plane? Most small airports I have been to to this would not be very hard. The real trick would be making sure you steal the plane that has been flown in the last 20 years.:D
 
So can someone tell me how are national security is enhanced by the registry? For decades it was what it was and what exactly happened because planes were not registered properly?

If I were in nefarious mood can I not just steal a plane? Most small airports I have been to to this would not be very hard. The real trick would be making sure you steal the plane that has been flown in the last 20 years.:D

Law enforcement and Homeland Security needed updated record keeping that the old system was not doing. Too many lazy aircraft owners would fail to deregister plane they sold, scraped, or destroyed.

Accurate aircraft registration records also aid in letting owners know of problems with specific airplanes; IE AD's
 
Why is it a good thing to have a registration system to keep track of aircraft when it is wholly inaccurate? Seems pretty sloppy to me.

Don't you think it is a little late to argue the merits of a regulation that has already passed and has been in force for 5 years? Take it up with the FAA, not me.:rolleyes:

you claim national security implications. If you don't want to stand by that ridiculous claim...
 
Good news as long as the one side doesn't dig in their heels and get stubborn on it.

Until you got something, you got nothing. But it's better than a kick in the teeth.
 
Re: Pilots Bill of Rights 2 introduced in House and Senate (3rd class medical related

Just curious, would an actual physical letter mailed to them get more attention than an email? I'm almost thinking a FedEx envelope with the letter might get even _more_ attention.

Thoughts?
No. No. NO.

Do not ever send physical mail. Due to security issues, all hard copy is processed thru an external system that detects bio and chem hazards.. So it can take many weeks before it gets to offices.

Want to send hard copy? Send a fax.

Second - don't send boilerplate from the EAA. Add your personal touch, so to speak. If you fly for Angelflight or other public service, point that out.

By the way, every email is read by staffers, and tallied according to topic and opinion. I'm acquainted with a staffer in my rep's office. She has some very interesting stories about some real wacko emails(without providing names or identifying specifics, of course)
 
Now the speaker will refer it to committee. That's where most bills stall and die. I'll wait a while before I send correspondence to my representative and senators. Once the bills are in committee the players are defined.
 
I stopped by Office Depot and sent a fax to my rep. No way I want them having my return email address, and I don't like using spoof accts.
 
Re: Pilots Bill of Rights 2 introduced in House and Senate (3rd class medical related

No. No. NO.

Do not ever send physical mail. Due to security issues, all hard copy is processed thru an external system that detects bio and chem hazards.. So it can take many weeks before it gets to offices.

Want to send hard copy? Send a fax.

Second - don't send boilerplate from the EAA. Add your personal touch, so to speak. If you fly for Angelflight or other public service, point that out.

By the way, every email is read by staffers, and tallied according to topic and opinion. I'm acquainted with a staffer in my rep's office. She has some very interesting stories about some real wacko emails(without providing names or identifying specifics, of course)

Interesting. I always thought a hardcopy would get more attention.

Whatever I send, I will write it, not forward a boilerplate. So, the consensus is to wait on the correspondence for now then?
 
Now the speaker will refer it to committee. That's where most bills stall and die. I'll wait a while before I send correspondence to my representative and senators. Once the bills are in committee the players are defined.

It in committee. That's where it is now. In the Senate it is in the Senate Commerce, Science, and Transportation committee. It currently has 6R, 5D, and 1I sponsors which is really good. The next committee meeting is March 3d. Probably no vote at that meeting but I would recommend getting your correspondence in soon....

In the House it's in House Judiciary and House Transportation and infrastructure, House is easy, almost everything gets out eventually. The Senate is where things die. Inhofe has a pretty good track record of getting his bills moved though.
 
Re: Pilots Bill of Rights 2 introduced in House and Senate (3rd class medical related

Interesting. I always thought a hardcopy would get more attention.

Whatever I send, I will write it, not forward a boilerplate. So, the consensus is to wait on the correspondence for now then?
I'd say don't wait. Don't see any advantage. But yes, not boilerplate.

Hardcopy does get more attention than email and more than fax (due to the ability to automate email/fax). Yes, boiler plate gets added up and counted but individual letters carry more weight. The delay due to security it real, but it is only a day any more. In the beginning it was really long but technology has caught up.

Phone calls are better yet. The staffer has to transcribe it and it earns more brain time. And they know you are not a robot.

Stopping by and visiting he local office (for representatives) is best by far. Bring the kids if you have them. A good civics lesson for them and it get's the staffs attention.

No need to contact anyone who you are not eligible to vote for unless you want to send a check.
 
It in committee. That's where it is now. In the Senate it is in the Senate Commerce, Science, and Transportation committee. It currently has 6R, 5D, and 1I sponsors which is really good. The next committee meeting is March 3d. Probably no vote at that meeting but I would recommend getting your correspondence in soon....

In the House it's in House Judiciary and House Transportation and infrastructure, House is easy, almost everything gets out eventually. The Senate is where things die. Inhofe has a pretty good track record of getting his bills moved though.

Thanks for the info. Here are a couple of links for tracking. The chances of passage aren't great according to statistics. We shall see.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/114/hr1062

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/114/s571
 
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