There is nothing wrong with putting a comma before an 'and.'
Depends on the style manual in use. The AP doesn't like it after the penultimate item in a list.
Rich
There is nothing wrong with putting a comma before an 'and.'
My 2004 Honda Pilot is at 234,000 miles. Synthetic since new, changed at about 7,500 miles. Sometimes as much as 9,000, seldom less than 7,300. Engine runs like new. Does not lose a drop of oil between changes.
The Oxford comma is an anachronism from the last century. It is time to throw off the yoke of OCD editors and grammarians who are living in the past!There is nothing wrong with putting a comma before an 'and.'
When I'm in a really foul mood, I'll punch an old lady, kick a small puppy dog, and start an oil thread on the Internet.
May as well turn it into a nitpicking grammar thread. You used an extra comma in that post.
The Oxford comma is an anachronism from the last century. It is time to throw off the yoke of OCD editors and grammarians who are living in the past!
You'll have to pry my Oxford comma from my cold, dead hands!There is nothing wrong with putting a comma before an 'and.'
Oil threads are fun. Ask 5 different mechanics about oil, you'll get 5 different answers. Ask 5 different drivers and you'll get 10.
3-4k conventional on older or well worn engines.
Newer/low mileage/still nice and tight engines 5-10k synthetic.
My experience has been once an engine gets older/higher mileage it will start using synthetic oil at a high rate past 4k or so. At that point, to me, there's no point in using expensive synthetic anymore. I just go to conventional and change at 3-4k at that point.
On any new vehicle, I'd tend to agree. However with older vehicles that didn't have as tight of engines, I disagree. On my 3000GT VR-4 I changed the oil every 3,000 miles, and you could start to tell at 2,500 miles that the oil was getting old.
To the original question, do what the manual recommends. The engineers put a whole lot of effort into figuring out what the appropriate times were for this. Personally I've never paid much attention to calendar time (unless that was just a convenient time to change for other reasons, like my tractors). Reality is in my experience the calendar times don't matter a whole lot on oil in the automotive world because modern engines are very tight and fuel injection helps keep the oil clean. This is also why oil change intervals have stretched out so much.
My cars now (two Mercedes and the Ram) all tell me when the oil needs changed, so I try to change a little ahead of schedule.
Read the Fantastic Manual. Or something like that.
Rich
When I RTFM, it said to RTFOLM.
(Read The Fantastic Oil Life Monitor).
I guess I should qualify that, it has been the case with any car I've owned. I started going 10,000 miles on the Concours and the Explorer, using synthetic oil. Both were perfectly happy with that arrangement and the Explorer went over 200K without using oil or blowing smoke. I would not, however, go more than 5,000 miles on conventional oil. Many older vehicles specified ranges from 3,000 miles to 7,500 miles depending on operating conditions. My dad used to use 7,500 mile intervals using crappy oil. His engines seldom went beyond 60K before blowing smoke.
My new Sentra specifies 5,000 mile intervals, and SN grade 0W-20, which by the way generally can't be found as a conventional oil, if that even exists. As it's my car, but I get to expense the maintenance, it's getting changed every 5,000 miles.
Every 3,000 in my McLaren.
Pardon me, do you have any Grey Poupon?
Who is using kritch’s account?Wow!!! A lot of good opinions here (concerning both oil and commas).
Thanks to everyone for the information. I really was not aware there was so many different opinions.
I think I would rather change it too often rather than not often enough.