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Discussion in 'Flight Following' started by Peter Ha, Jan 7, 2020.
Have you done a W&B calculation by hand? Are you certain FF isn't correct?
I think you will be surprised how "bad" it looks once you clean it up, and get the soot off of it. It might just need some touch up paint.
Oh, I just gotta say it.
That'll buff right out.
If "ten scars make a man" than maybe "one burnt cowling makes a pilot."
Battle scars baby wear them with honor.
It needs a good story, though.
Maybe you could tell people it got burned when you followed too closely behind an F16. In a dive. Inverted.
Tell them the 150 was going so fast you had to try a little reverse afterburner and dump in raw fuel to try to slow it down.
It is actually possible in some aircraft for the fuel burn to bring you out of W&B (or change categories if that matters for your planned operations), depending on loading. It is a good idea to not only calculate full-fuel W&B but also zero-fuel W&B and draw a line between them. That way you will know if/when your fuel burn will take you out of the envelope and perhaps require a shifting of the weight before takeoff or an earlier fuel stop.
LOL! I think most should buff out with a little elbow grease. Try using a clay bar to get what you can off, then a cleaner wax on a polishing pad (Mothers Power Ball is good) to see of you can get the rest of the soot and any light discoloration off. then just touch up any deep burn marks with some paint. (Mask off the area and use a rattle can for best, even coverage)
In my 172, I mounted my Halon extinguisher to the front of the pilot's seat frame using Adel clamps, but the 150 seat frame may or may not have enough room to do that. It was easily unclipped from the bracket with one hand in a second or two.
It shouldn't be as much of a factor in a 150, Hand calculating with a 175lb pilot and 50lbs of luggage in area 1 and 135lbs of fuel should yield a 35.31cg
calculating 19.5 (3 gal unusable?) gallons of fuel burn still turns out a 34.75cg which is well within the envelope. I'm guessing something is messed up in his FF setup.
1) Remove cowl from the airplane and find a place big enough to work on it.
2) Start with soap and water. I’d use something like Comet cleanser, it’s got a very mild abrasive (great for interior plastic), rinse well then see what’s left of the soot and if there’s any physical damage such as cracks or bubbles on the surface.
3) Can of spray paint as close as possible to color. The difference will be noticeable due to age of the original paint. No way to avoid it.
4) let dry for at least a day. While waiting, do a really good job of washing the airplane. Do not use the cleanser on the rest of the airplane, and don’t use Simple Green. There’s a separate version for aviation.Too many cleaners can affect the aluminum.
Do you recall what the aviation version is called? Is it a different version of Simple Green, or does it have another name?
Yeah, regular simple green has ammonia which is not good for aluminum.
The stuff cited above works great.
There was a tread here not long ago what to use to wash a plane and AWSOME from a DOLLAR store was recommended as safe cleaner for aluminum. I used it on my plane with good result.
I’m in 25nm from Corona at KREI.
It’s IFR there due to haze and mist!
so I’m waiting out here Redlands, CA.
What else could go wrong? Sigh..
What a interesting trip, I hope I'm able to do something like this some day. Thanks for sharing it.
Well, I guess a friend can pick you up and you can sleep in your own bed tonight.
That’s what I’m saying. Use the aviation version in the link
Eagle has landed!
I’ve landed in Corona!
Nice work Peter, congratulations!
Woohoo!!!! Great job! I bet you never, ever forget this trip. Congratulations!!!
Peter is the man!
This makes me think of that “1500 mile student solo cross country” thread. I’ll bet that “expert” still hasn’t got his license, and Peter did it the hard way and still did it faster.
Great job. Story of a lifetime.
man, I'm sorry! I haven't been to Corona in quite some time, but I used to drive up from Fallbrook at least twice a week back in the day.
Ferry jobs and long cross countries are so great for learning!
There is a tiny little paint shop there at Corona who do piecework, appx midfield. Look for the hangar with the giant pipe coming out of it (ventilator), facing the service road. I'd ask them to bid it. AFTER you clean it up and find the paint is actually damaged. They're involved with the restaurant owner in some way if I recall.
Congratulations, Peter! Well done! Tie down (or hangar) your bird and go get that steak and beer dinner! (And sleep in your own bed tonight... or someone else's, uh, never mind...)
A job well done!
Life is about the stories and you have a good one.
Learn from the mistakes and after a while you’ll be the wise old owl telling a new pilot in his 150 that maybe he should wait out the weather on the couch over there...
Do try not to set any more airplanes on fire. That gets expensive and dangerous quickly!
Fantastic. Next time someone tells you that something can't be done you can say "Ha"!
Never refuse to declare an emergency because you are afraid of what the feds MIGHT do. I've declared an emergency several times under part 91 (sick passenger) and 121 (problem with main fuselage door warning and a shattered windshield). FAA and ATC has never wanted to talk with me after the flight. They were always helpful and concerned about safety. Don't be afraid to declare an emergency!
Sounds like you have absorbed some good information and will be more aware and cautious in the future. A couple of points all of us should keep in mind:
1-Always keep an eye on your fuel state. Leaks, caps coming off, failing to lean, and many other things can and do happen.
2-Always make sure fuel is available where you are going.
Off of the soapbox.
Congrats on completing your adventure safely. Some good lessons along the way. We've all been there. Enjoy your new bird and the joys of owner$ship, if you know what I mean.
Epic trip, congrats!
High adventure. Congratulations on a successful conclusion. May your adventures continue apace.
I read this too fast, and read "continue in space". Now that, Peter, would be amazing, especially in the 150! Can't wait to follow that on flightaware!
I'd be curious to hear the "final stats" for this trip: y'know: number of airports, total miles, total hours, fuel consumed, number of A&P's consulted, etc...