"New" Flight Sim

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  1. The-Flying-Lawyer

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    I've been tracking this being both a flying and video game fan. Will defiantly be trying it out.
     
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    Anybody else agree that the opening picture with the ICON A5 is over San Diego Bay just south of the Coronado bridge turning towards Brown Field in Imperial Beach.
     
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    I'm out if the software doesn't default load to Meigs Field or a carrier landing on the USS Nimitz, lol.
     
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    Why be defiant about it? I'm going to be very cooperative.


    (sorry that's just a thing here isn't it?)
     
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    Definitely looking forward to it. And defiantly going to be be getting a new computer . . .

    . . . “defiantly” because I’m sure it will be over my wife’s objections.
     
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    Awesome to see a big step forward in SIM capability. I’ll likely buy one ASAP when available.
     
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    Saw a video on flight chops (I think it is called, the pilot with the mutton chops?) where he attended. He says flat out, “up until now I never felt the graphics were useable for VFR flights in the flint sims, but this IS.

    the graphics seem amazing, and they apparently draw clouds in a different way (as particles), and they don’t render, but use some complex system to create in real-time the features on the ground. It does look amazing.

    but besides looks, apparently the flight model is ground breaking too. They claim in all other sims they use one data point for airflow over the wings. Here they use eleven I think it was. Further, he claimed and the flight chops guy (excellent videos by the way, from him, great guy!) confirmed that the flights were way more realistic. They specifically talked about definitely wanting it realistic and they worked hard to get for example the base to final overshoot scenario, where a pilot uses more rudder into the turn, to try and cheat, add to the turn, and flips. I got the idea that once they had that tuned, other stall, etc. cases fell right in line.
    Flight chop guy said still at takeoff there is something not there and wished they also would have feedback to the joystick and controls, but that may come. He noted that when he tried going into a spin, seems easier on the left side, and the makers of the sim said it was because of CG, Because he was in the left seat, unbalancing it that direction.

    it sure seems like this might end up being miles ahead of anything before.
     
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    Agreed. If you poke around a few of the other articles you can find some pretty amazing stuff. I think the most impressive picture in the article I originally posted is actually the panel. They also do some really cool stuff with the wind (it flows over and around mountains, cities, etc., turbulence picks up as the ground warms up, that kind of thing). The real-time weather won't populate the actual clouds, but it's apparently miles ahead of prior systems. For example, they flew it threw Dorian and discovered a glitch with the eye wall. The big jump on the graphics in cities, etc. is that they use start with satellite imagery (from Bing, which is apparently not dead) and fill in the gaps as you get closer with AI. A few testers have reported seeing the correct make and model of their own car parked in their own driveway.

    It's going to be cool.
     
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    I’ll be defiantly checking it out because I have a mess of XP11 payware. Definitely might be worth it though.
     
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    Hm...
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    Same here. If it doesn't default to Meigs AND have the Goodyear blimp on station over Soldier Field like it did on my Commodore-64, they can kiss my ass! :D

    just kidding, I signed up for the "insider" program and I'm eagerly waiting for the Tech Alpha build!
     
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    They had tons of Microsoft product placements.
     
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    The "discussion" has already begun with the wife about a new PC..."but honey, you need a new computer to work on.... Yes it needs to cost that much to run the Microsoft Fl...I mean office software" Used to be a big fan of FSX... looks like I am getting back into the hobby.
     
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    A computer might have to "fall off the truck" at work. Oh honey, look what surplus computer I brought home from the office
     
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    It looks like the largest leap forward I've ever seen in simming.

    The AI technology they are using to clean up ortho images and produce accurate buildings and trees directly on top of pictured structures is mind blowing. Plus the photogrammetry stuff in the larger cities that have been photographed from multiple angles.

    We are getting to the point where simulators might be useful for more than IFR procedures (I mean aside from just having fun of course).
     
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    I wonder how many generations we are from having real time imagery 24/7. It hasn't been all that long since we have been able to have high resolution aerial imagery of the whole planet right at our fingertips (or on our cell phone).
     
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    Why even fly in real life anymore!
     
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    haha. Reminds me of when my father came home from work with a live turkey he found, that got loose from somewhere near his job LOL.
     
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    I watched a video of the pre-alpha build on YouTube and I was blown away by the rain and clouds! If the final produce lives up to the hype, the weather engine is going to be very impressive!
     
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    Thanks a lot guys. I was just going to get a 38” curved Viewsonic Hi-Res monitor. Now I’m going to need a 16 core (32 hyperthread) CPU, a new motherboard, faster RAM and faster SSD to run FS 2020. I already have an N- Vidia GTX 1080 FTW video card. It has enough resources to drive the new monitor.

    I saw some of the videos. The one with rain on the windshield totally blew me away!
     
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    This should do the trick for me...
    https://pcpartpicker.com/user/aftcg/saved/Ff7jpg
    :drool:
     
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    We cant read it
     
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    Let's see, spend $5,000 on a new computer or buy a G5 upgrade? LOL
     
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    Depends on what the private parts are.
     
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    It's been a long time since I've been in the flight sim / gaming world but this sounds tempting. On the other hand, spending a couple grand on a gaming PC is alot of hours in a real plane.

    It'll be awhile. Those high res sats aren't taking very big footprints at a time. You'd need a ton of them, kind of like Elon's internet satellites. Also your highest res stuff is still taken by guys like me in airplanes not satellites. And satellites still have to see through the entire atmosphere, smog, haze, and all. That's a reason "Open Skies" exists still. Although that one spy satellite photo that Trump let leak about the North Koreans (or was it Iranians?) That was some TIGHT resolution for satellite imagery, just not for us civilians to play with.
     
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    have been an X-Plane user for some time. Really like the community and the amount of freeware orthographic scenery you can get (or make). I have a 5TB hard drive full of the stuff for Europe and USA. But the videos I have seen for MSFS2020 are amazing. And the smooth motion/frame rates.... I have a really slick system and I get choppy frame rates with graphics sliders turned up to fairly high. X-Plane is just too far behind in their graphics engine to compete with MSFS when it comes out. Sure, Laminar Research is moving to the Vulkan graphics engine which might help, but that product just has too much tech debt built into it to compete with MSFS. Can't wait. I will buy it on day one if only they would support VR...
     
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    If you have a 5400 RPM HDD, the latency between reads could make your frame rates choppy. When I had a HDD for my main drive, every once in a while, my screen would hiccup. I very rarely see hiccups with my SSD.
     
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    They recently came back and said they've re-prioritized VR and will be trying to have it VR-ready at launch instead of an add-on later.
     
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    So, what's the deal? Is this only available on Xbox right now?

    Or are there plans to have it available on Mac or IBM?
     
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    If this is VR ready at launch, I will buy it and maybe even upgrade my pc along the way. The visuals look absolutely stunning. If the flight model is close enough to xplane, I'm a buyer all day long.
     
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    Very excited for this to come out. Played Flight Sim all the way back from flight sim 95 I think. I just got a decent gaming PC last year and now this is coming out soon so I’m hoping I can really enjoy flight sims again!
     
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    The funny thing is that tech debt was the problem with MSFS when X-Plane came out. Heh. Back and forth, back and forth.
     
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    Here is a video that I think shows a lot of previously disclosed information but puts it all together in a nice package. IF they can pull this off this has the potential to be really fun to use...and to look at decisions you did not make and see how they might have turned out.

     
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    Video?