Nationwide Ground Stop 11-13-26

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Rumors out of a nationwide ground stop right now. No airliners appear to be taking off. Not sure how widespread. Supposedly ATC comm issue.
 
Due to extraordinary circumstances and for reasons of safety. Attention all aircraft operators, by order of the Federal Aviation Command Center all airports are ground stopped. All departing traffic should remain ground stopped until further notice. Inbound international flights will be managed on a case by case basis.
 
We got a companywide email saying there is a nationwide ground stop due to several ARTCCs having radar and communication issues.

The ATCSCC NAS Advisories server isn't serving any more either, so it's not even possible to verify officially! However, NAS Status does still show a lot of airports with delays increasing due to "eq:faa" (FAA Equipment)

francisco collazos said:
This is probably a dumb question but can I go fly my plane out of an uncontrolled airport if i'm not taling to ATC vfr?
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Probably... It's not 9/11, but now that I mention that, I'm not sure what the wording of the 9/11 grounding order vs today's was, because you can't access them right now!

SoonerAviator said:
Gotta quit using Outlook to talk to the aircraft.
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Funny... But maybe also very not-funny. Do we know what the cause of the Outlook outage was yesterday? Given that it appears multiple systems are affected at the FAA, it's not a simple "oh, x went down" scenario. It may be an actual attack.
 
I see no TFRs or NOTAMS, using FF as my briefing tool. My Class D to an untowered field about 30 miles away.

<edit: I guess if there is no way to enter something in a system, then there is no way to get the message out, and therefore any briefing will not have that communication.>
 
My sister is at ORD supposed to board to see her fiance in Germany who ironically enough is Chicago Tracon when not deployed
 
This is what happens when you fire Jensen!
 
I have seen a few reports saying that the nationwide ground stop is because the VHF frequencies used for voice communication between pilots and air traffic control have become unreliable.

So would this be linked to the outage yesterday...or something different?
 
Seems to be continental US only. NH183 just departed HNL for NRT.
 
ATC? We don’t need no stinking ATC!

But the question of whether not it applies to private aircraft flying VFR between uncontrolled fields in uncontrolled airspace is a good one. My default assumption is no it doesn’t but I’m not sure.

I suspect whoever wrote the NOTAM wasn’t even thinking about that.
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I forgot how abysmal airlines are at communicating with the public.

ATC saying expect an update around 0400z. Airlines saying "we have no additional information but there is an air traffic control delay. As soon as we get more information we will share it."

Why, why are airlines so bad at this?
 
kaiser said:
they did just roll out AI at 22 airports just the other day. hmmmmmmm
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Oh reeeeeeeaalllly?

SkyHog said:
ATC saying expect an update around 0400z.
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Source?

SkyHog said:
Airlines saying "we have no additional information but there is an air traffic control delay. As soon as we get more information we will share it."

Why, why are airlines so bad at this?
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Because if they said everyone was gonna have to wait 6 hours for word, there might be a riot.
 
Multiple news reports interviewing passengers being deplaned report being told a "6 to 7 hours wait until re-boading is possible, at the earliest". Not sure how the pilots know that information right now however.
 
flyingcheesehead said:
Funny... But maybe also very not-funny. Do we know what the cause of the Outlook outage was yesterday? Given that it appears multiple systems are affected at the FAA, it's not a simple "oh, x went down" scenario. It may be an actual attack.
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When you p*** off two nations with a high ratio of hackers and bot-management, ya gotta expect stuff like this.....

Ron Wanttaja
 
So I've seen screenshots of the advisory but can't seem to pull it up from the ATCSCC page itself.

flyingcheesehead said:
Source?
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The advisory screenshot i've seen shows event time through 0400z (though effective through 0430) - that'd be my guess what everyone is referencing

midwestpa24 said:
I have talked to the FAA and can confirm VFR is ok. Only an ATC outage and no IFR departures are being accepted.
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the advisory (screenshot) says all airports are ground stopped. by letter that would mean no VFR either. though who's gonna stop us, eh?
 
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