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Puh-leeze. Hasn't been a President with their own words that weren't approved by a Party committee in my lifetime. Leadership! ROFLMAO! You're precious. You actually believe that crap?
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Puh-leeze. Hasn't been a President with their own words that weren't approved by a Party committee in my lifetime. Leadership! ROFLMAO! You're precious. You actually believe that crap?
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From Forbes:
These are the tax brackets you will use to prepare 2015 taxes, NOT 2014.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyph...brackets-standard-deduction-amounts-and-more/
Counterpoint:
Boomers along with their previous generation have created the most spectaculor liberated society and business environment the world has ever known. We have set foot on our moon and cured most maladies and the squalor that has plagued mankind since his beginning.
If you don't like this highly competitive free society that we've fought and died for, or you somehow think you're oppressed or unable to aquire your equitable share, you're even free to leave. That's the beauty of it.
Let freedom reign!
These are the tax brackets you will use to prepare 2015 taxes, NOT 2014.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyph...brackets-standard-deduction-amounts-and-more/
Counterpoint:
Boomers along with their previous generation have created the most spectaculor liberated society and business environment the world has ever known. We have set foot on our moon and cured most maladies and the squalor that has plagued mankind since his beginning.
If you don't like this highly competitive free society that we've fought and died for, or you somehow think you're oppressed or unable to aquire your equitable share, you're even free to leave. That's the beauty of it.
Let freedom reign!
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Quit with the negative waves, man.
You have to inflation adjust his income backward to 1980 dollars or the bracket thresholds forward to 2015 dollars. Otherwise your comparison is not valid. Makes for sensational numbers, but is meaningless.
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denverpilot
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Why can't they just make that a frigging curve? Argh.
Make $189,301, pay 62,469.
Make $189,300, pay 53,004.
Those stupid breakpoints mean you have to be careful to make at least $10K more just to break even and make $500 at that particular one.
Worse at the next two.
1st World Problem, I know but a $10K loss isn't anything to sneeze at.
Make $189,301, pay 62,469.
Make $189,300, pay 53,004.
Those stupid breakpoints mean you have to be careful to make at least $10K more just to break even and make $500 at that particular one.
Worse at the next two.
1st World Problem, I know but a $10K loss isn't anything to sneeze at.
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From Forbes:
These are the tax brackets you will use to prepare 2015 taxes, NOT 2014.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyph...brackets-standard-deduction-amounts-and-more/
Counterpoint:
Boomers along with their previous generation have created the most spectaculor liberated society and business environment the world has ever known. We have set foot on our moon and cured most maladies and the squalor that has plagued mankind since his beginning.
If you don't like this highly competitive free society that we've fought and died for, or you somehow think you're oppressed or unable to aquire your equitable share, you're even free to leave. That's the beauty of it.
Let freedom reign!
The oldest boomers were 23 wh the 1st moon landing occurred. Quit taking credit for your parents generation's accomplishments. 45 years later with boomers in charge, we can't get into space without hitching a ride with the Russians. Oh, and forcing money out of younger folks isn't "competitive".
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I gave them credit.
How do you know there wasn't a 23 year old boomer working at NASA? Our generation has it's prodigies just as every generation.
How am I 'forcing' money out of you that isn't being 'forced' out of me?
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Because I understand how the system works.
Hey, your parents beat you, so you should abuse your kids twice as much.
denverpilot
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^^ ROFLMAO. I think the funniest part of this thread has been the wild stuff some Boomers claim, that get utterly destroyed in the very next post with facts. It's happened numerous times.
I don't think it's a reflection on most or all Boomers, but a reflection on a few very vocal ones here who don't even know or bother to check their own statements and beliefs. Or can't really live their ideology. Whichever stupid ideology it is.
Mostly that's because they really didn't pay any attention to what their politicians were doing, IMHO.
Examples would be voting consistently for "Conservatives" for forty years who never lowered taxes or made government smaller even once, or the alternative, voting for "Liberals" who never actually created a sustainable utopian world for their pet causes and always cost those folks they were "saving" more money through sheer bureaucratic incompetence.
Believing political Parties has to be the most hilarious past-time I see consistently of older folks.
My last email to a supposedly "Tea Party" representative of mine, pointed out that he's spending like a drunken sailor, and doesn't have conservative fiscal values, along with other things. He replied with, "That's not even worth responding to."
Only took him a couple of months to decide all the stuff he's spending money on is more important than his fake ideals.
I don't think it's a reflection on most or all Boomers, but a reflection on a few very vocal ones here who don't even know or bother to check their own statements and beliefs. Or can't really live their ideology. Whichever stupid ideology it is.
Mostly that's because they really didn't pay any attention to what their politicians were doing, IMHO.
Examples would be voting consistently for "Conservatives" for forty years who never lowered taxes or made government smaller even once, or the alternative, voting for "Liberals" who never actually created a sustainable utopian world for their pet causes and always cost those folks they were "saving" more money through sheer bureaucratic incompetence.
Believing political Parties has to be the most hilarious past-time I see consistently of older folks.
My last email to a supposedly "Tea Party" representative of mine, pointed out that he's spending like a drunken sailor, and doesn't have conservative fiscal values, along with other things. He replied with, "That's not even worth responding to."
Only took him a couple of months to decide all the stuff he's spending money on is more important than his fake ideals.
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You understand how the system works and I don't because um ... I'm a boomer. Right?
My parents never beat me. Don't project your own passive/aggresive faults onto my family. Not cool.
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Ah...if your numbers were based of the table immediately preceding your post you might want to check your math. Or call your accountant. Or get an accountant.
Nauga,
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And you know this how?
Ridicule is not a substitute for evidence or a reasoned argument.
Same to you.
It's better than the crap that you're putting out.
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Your way of calculating it would make sense if tax brackets had actually been indexed to inflation, but that's never happened that I recall. If the people boomers helped elect had done that, it would certainly be to their credit, but I'm not interested in claiming credit on their behalf for things they didn't do. I'm only interested in claiming credit on their behalf for things they did do, which was to lower the tax rates for the top brackets.
Now, if you're going to tell me that the people that boomers helped elect did index tax brackets to inflation, great - that strengthens my argument.
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Awww, don't blame it on Larry! Blame it on John D. Blame it on Sykes-Picot. But, don't blame it on Larry. That little weirdo was actually quite a good chap at heart!
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Nice straw man you have there. Did you build it yourself?
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I was wondering about that too.
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The correct difference is about $0.33 but let's not interrupt a good rant.
Nauga,
and his order of magnitude
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denverpilot
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LOL. Holy hell. I did a percentage total.
Sheesh. See what I get for trying to eat a nice buffalo chicken sandwich and do math at the same time?
Appreciate the catch. Holy hell.
Hmm.
You can't see them reading from the prompter?
You ever hear every news station exclaim in unison after a speech, "Oh his Party won't like that! But they'll all vote for it because it's right!"?
You've never read any of the books or articles written by people who were Presidential speech writers who directly state "X wanted Y in the speech" and not only that, when reading said book or article know that at least some significant percentage of the story is BS anyway, so as to not make certain people angry at them, and so the book wouldn't be flamed out of the book selling tour process by professional politicos?
You've never watched a President speak about something not a single thing in their personal experience in life could have possibly prepared them for?
You think every speech isn't rehearsed and approved in front of a team?
You've never seen the video evidence of stump speeches where the exact same words and the exact same speech are given countless times in multiple locations, and you can edit them together with ease, and people do today, just for fun? (And since the beginning of recorded speeches, really. But especially in my lifetime and on video.)
You haven't seen the stories where a powerful Congresscritter states flatly that they "worked with the President['s speech writers and Party operatives and approvers] to change the wording of [insert big speech here, SotU, whatever) when the Party (whatever Party) knew their specific brand of ideology for the talking head wouldn't fly with voters in a Congressional election year?
C'mon. You're not that in awe of the Office to think the politicos couldn't groom damn near anyone to stand there and speak on cue, as long as they own the airwaves, are you?
At the national level, we've been an Oligarchy my entire life. Refute it. Show me a President who bucked their Party and their real owners, so hard it hurt. In my lifetime.
(We have Yet Another Bush(TM) running against Yet Another Clinton(TM) if you need further evidence of that statement. Are you blind? Or just not paying attention? You think the crap that was shoveled out in Social Studies or Civics class was reality and just any ol' American can hold the highest Office without being completely sold out to donors and a massive Party money machine? ROFLMAO.)
How about you find an example of a President giving a major speech that "led" Congress anywhere other than a Partisan vote, with the added stipulation that it made the lives of every American better through their so-called "leadership" skills.
Has to be in my lifetime since I said that in the original post, so start at Carter or Reagan depending if you want it to be after I could remember or after I could vote, your pick.
As for this...
I'll just let you answer yourself.
Looks like you've officially challenged yourself to prove me wrong.
Go find the speech you think wasn't approved by a Party and it's multi-millionaire donors, and was such a demonstration of leadership it transcended the political lie machine and everyone crossed Party lines to follow the special "leader" in the Oval.
He did, however the interests he was under orders from serve a dark master, The Seven Sisters of Oil. Larry is who disrupted and Gerrymandered Arabia (under orders, and I don't dis the guy, I think he was a fine chap who was mislead by his master's lies, just like our current soldiers, enough committing suicide over it that the losses rival and even exceed combat losses.) into the condition it is now. You can link 9/11 directly back to Lawrence and the displacement of bin Laden's family from Sultans to upper class merchants and bureaucrats in the unification of the Arab state under the House of Saud.
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Get on it! Vaguely posting about god on an aviation forum isn't the way to spread the real truth of god. How are people supposed to learn and evolve?
- Write it down into a book.
- Start a blog and a website for your teachings.
- Self publish that book.
- Make YouTube video lessons and sermons.
Dav8or
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Don't forget tricycle landing gear and GPS with a magenta line too! All Boomers fault!! Those bastards ruin everything!!
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I think the boomers are responsible for Jerry Springer, Oprah and Dr Phil
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That, is true! No disputes from anyone. However, they also produced all the excellent television shows and series as well as movies of the last 30 years or so. There is much good that overcomes the bad.
No, the good:bad ratio is 20:80. There is very little good to offset the vast oceans of evil. BTW, look what happened to the price of seeing a movie since the Boomers took over; even the good is tainted.
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That one is pretty easy to avoid, and yet people still go. We've seen two movies in theaters in as many years. Both on "special" occasions, and really the "experience" wasn't worth it. Can simulate it well enough at home that there's little reason to go.
Last one was just last weekend for Karen's birthday and only because she didn't want to wait to see the movie.
Movie was pretty good, the rest of the experience was "meh", and they've converted that AMC into a "dine in" place complete with electric recliners (just like the ones you now would buy for a home theater) and what I would essentially call "TV trays" built in.
Food was warmed up fatty junk but I still ate a panini they warmed up in a microwave and some popcorn.
Total cost was $40. Ridiculous. We definitely wouldn't have gone if it wasn't for her birthday.
At least they installed row after row of those nasty, never clean, new style million-flavor Coke machines, so I could have a flavored no calorie water drink that wasn't Diet Coke. Not that I mind Diet Coke, but a gallon of it is kinda nuts.
You also know the place is ridiculous when the kid behind the counter is giving you tips on how to knock three bucks off the price of popcorn in a whisper so his manager doesn't hear. Haha.
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Porn options have gotten a lot better with the boomers running things.
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Quit with the negative waves, man.
The problem with your approach is that tax rates have never been static. If you look at your rate history, during periods of high inflation, like the 60's and 70's, top marginal rates had been repeatedly adjusted downward to prevent bracket creep. To think rates would have remained static for decades is not remotely realistic, thus the comparison in constant dollars.
If you really want to sensationalize, use the marginal rates from 1941 on today's incomes, where the bottom tax rate was 25% on incomes as low as $500 and 91% on incomes of $500K or more. That'll really get them riled, and be just as valid.
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The Porn industry was not changed by Boomers, that was my generation.
BTW, if you ever come across the old VideoX Pirate Porn series, that was my idea, but still, it was 'old school' pre internet porn.
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There you go! See, there is a silver lining after all!
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