Massive Candian Low Pressure System

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Well I was planning on flying our new diamond some more tomorrow, but decided to check the weather after hearing that we were supposed to have major winds tomorrow.

Looking at the progs I noticed that there was a massive Low pressure system developing over western Ontario.

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I haven't seen such a large low in a long time, and I was wondering how these things develop? BTW 961 millibar is equal to 28.38" of Hg
 

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The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down
Of the big lake they call Gitche Gumee
The lake, it is said, never gives up her dead
When the skies of November October turn gloomy.
 
it was probably caused by a butterfly somewhere
 
ScottM said:
The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down
Of the big lake they call Gitche Gumee
The lake, it is said, never gives up her dead
When the skies of November October turn gloomy.
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Or the Gales of November come early.

This is pretty early.
 
It is obvious that the Canadians have developed a method of controlling the weather, and are now trying to destroy us with its power. We must start massing our troops along the border immediately.

John
 
ScottM said:
The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down
Of the big lake they call Gitche Gumee
The lake, it is said, never gives up her dead
When the skies of November October turn gloomy.
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Great.

Now I have that song running through my head...

Lets try this.


It's a small world after all.
It's a small world after all.
It's a small world after all.
It's a small, small, world.
 
dmccormack said:
Yes it is -- I remember going through that in the 1964 World's Fair in New York (Was actually in Flushing, Queens and the globe is still there).

I was 3 years old. :rolleyes2:
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You have a good memory. I remember the "Small World" exhibit at the NY Worlds Fair too but I was 7. I also remember that circular theater which made you feel like you were going down some rapids in a boat.
 
Everskyward said:
You have a good memory. I remember the "Small World" exhibit at the NY Worlds Fair too but I was 7. I also remember that circular theater which made you feel like you were going down some rapids in a boat.
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I don't think I went on that one?

At least I don't remember. :dunno:

I do remember being offered a ride on the NY TRansit Helicopters (they flew to the top of those legged looking buildinsg) and saying "No!!!" I was scared...

I remember going to the Pieta exhibit. We stood on this sidewalk and it slowly moved you past this big stone thing.
 
vontresc said:
Well I was planning on flying our new diamond some more tomorrow, but decided to check the weather after hearing that we were supposed to have major winds tomorrow.

Looking at the progs I noticed that there was a massive Low pressure system developing over western Ontario.



I haven't seen such a large low in a long time, and I was wondering how these things develop? BTW 961 millibar is equal to 28.38" of Hg
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Wow! I'm flying commercial to Minneapolis tomorrow. It looks like that low will be centered over Minnesota all day. Sweet. :hairraise:
 
vontresc said:
I haven't seen such a large low in a long time, and I was wondering how these things develop? BTW 961 millibar is equal to 28.38" of Hg
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This one should be pretty interesting to watch. I see the all-time record low barometric pressure in International Falls is 28.70", set in November 1949. If this storm develops as forecast, they'll probably have a new record in a couple of days.
 
scottd said:
You've got it easy...

Take a look at the weather in the Southeast U.S. this morning. Here's the surface chart at 15Z. I dare you to find any fronts or massive area of low pressure in the Southeast. Looks pretty tranquil, doesn't it?


Ah, but don't let that fool you. Had a line of strong convection (no lightning) with high wind gusts move through my neighborhood here in Charlotte complete with Tornado (red) and Severe Thunderstorm watches (blue). Hmmmm? I'll take your massive low pressure any day over this stuff!
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Had a nice gully-washer and window rattler this morning around 8am here just south of ATL.

Heard the sirens going off so I started stumbling around looking for weather on TV only to find out that it was a T-storm warning. Since when do the tornado sirens go off for t-storm warnings!? Heaven help us if a tornado actually shows up - I'll just think it's another stupid t-storm warning.
 
I am about 3/4 mile into Clayton county - on the border with Fayette County.

We were under a Tornado WATCH, so maybe it did spin up enough for a warning for a few minutes. Are the sirens connected directly to a 'master computer' that reads the doppler, or does someone have to push the button to set the sirens off for a suspected tornado?

EDIT: Side note for the original topic - it would be interesting to see if there is a short spike in the number of expecting mothers that go into labor in that area. My father-in-law contends that strong storm fronts tend to induce labor due to the quick change (usually drop) in barometric pressure. It would be interesting to have numbers to back that up...
 
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John Baker said:
It is obvious that the Canadians have developed a method of controlling the weather, and are now trying to destroy us with its power. We must start massing our troops along the border immediately.

John
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We're working on making the US much colder so our "dirty oil" from Alberta's oil sands will suddenly become much more attractive. Nobody likes to shiver in the dark. And since most of our cold air comes around the pole from Siberia, the Russians are contributing to your misery.

And just to set it straight, that "dirty oil" generates far less CO2 and other nasty pollutants per unit of energy than the stuff emitted by the coal-fired powerplants in the US. So much of this mess is political, not real.

Dan
 
A high wind warning has been issued for the Chicago area Tuesday when a strong cold front could touch off one of the strongest storms to hit the Great Lakes region in decades, with winds clocking at more than 55 mph.
A squall of thunderstorms is expected to rake the area around daybreak, followed by strong winds throughout the day and into Wednesday morning, according to the National Weather Service.

Winds could be as strong as 35 to 40 mph during the day Tuesday, with gusts of 55 mph or more, meteorologist Andrew Krein said.
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Yikes. Good day to work from home I think!




Pete is right to be concerned



The storm could be one of the strongest to hit the Great Lakes region in the last 70 years, the weather service said.


The worst is the Great Blizzard of 1978, which pounded Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Michigan, Ohio and Wisconsin from Jan. 25 to Jan. 27, 1978. The 28.28 inches (958 millibars) of barometric pressure recorded in Cleveland during that storm remains the lowest nontropical atmospheric pressure recorded in the mainland United States, according to the weather service.
Up to 40 inches of snow fell, driven by winds gusting up to 100 mph.
Next on the list is the Armistice Day Storm that hit on Nov. 11, 1940 and packed winds of up to 80 mph, according to the weather service. Temperatures plummeted by 50 degrees, and a raging blizzard dumped up to 27 inches of snow over Nebraska, South Dakota, Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin and Michigan. The barometric pressure was recorded at 28.55 inches (967 millibars).


No snow is in Tuesday's forecast, but the barometric pressure could drop to 28.35 inches (959 millibars). The lower the pressure of a storm system, the more violently moisture is sucked in.
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WX geeks will be watching barometer!






Number five on the list is the storm that sunk the Edmund Fitzgerald ore freighter on Nov. 10, 1975.
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Told ya!


The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down
Of the big lake they call Gitche Gumee
Superior, they say, never gives up her dead
When the gales of November come early.
 
Great...I've got family driving from Tennessee to Saskatchewan over the next 3 days...right through all that crap!
 
Whoo-ee... Gonna be a good one:

KMSN 251740Z 2518/2618 19009G16KT P6SM FEW025 OVC250
TEMPO 2518/2519 BKN025
FM260000 14009KT P6SM SCT150 OVC250
FM260300 14014G24KT 6SM BR VCSH SCT015 BKN035
FM260600 15019G30KT 4SM -SHRA BR BKN025CB
FM261100 18022G38KT 3SM SHRA BR SCT005 BKN015CB
TEMPO 2612/2616 1SM +TSRA BR BKN005 OVC020CB
FM261600 22025G43KT P6SM BKN035

KMKE 251740Z 2518/2624 21010G17KT P6SM FEW025 OVC250
FM260000 15010KT P6SM SCT150 OVC250
FM260400 15017G26KT 6SM BR VCSH SCT015 BKN035
FM260700 17020G32KT 4SM -SHRA BR BKN025CB
FM261200 18025G40KT 3SM SHRA BR SCT005 BKN015CB
TEMPO 2613/2617 1SM +TSRA BR BKN005 OVC020CB
FM261700 23027G45KT P6SM BKN035
 
flyingcheesehead said:
Whoo-ee... Gonna be a good one:

KMSN 251740Z 2518/2618 19009G16KT P6SM FEW025 OVC250
TEMPO 2518/2519 BKN025
FM260000 14009KT P6SM SCT150 OVC250
FM260300 14014G24KT 6SM BR VCSH SCT015 BKN035
FM260600 15019G30KT 4SM -SHRA BR BKN025CB
FM261100 18022G38KT 3SM SHRA BR SCT005 BKN015CB
TEMPO 2612/2616 1SM +TSRA BR BKN005 OVC020CB
FM261600 22025G43KT P6SM BKN035

KMKE 251740Z 2518/2624 21010G17KT P6SM FEW025 OVC250
FM260000 15010KT P6SM SCT150 OVC250
FM260400 15017G26KT 6SM BR VCSH SCT015 BKN035
FM260700 17020G32KT 4SM -SHRA BR BKN025CB
FM261200 18025G40KT 3SM SHRA BR SCT005 BKN015CB
TEMPO 2613/2617 1SM +TSRA BR BKN005 OVC020CB
FM261700 23027G45KT P6SM BKN035
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I'm departing MKE-MSP at 1330 tomorrow in an Embraer RJ 135, and returning at 0000. I think winds aloft won't be nearly as bad as surface and low level winds. Does anyone know of takeoff operating limits in an ERJ135 with these kinds of gusts?
 
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URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE QUAD CITIES IA IL 332 PM CDT MON OCT 25 2010 ...HIGH WINDS TUESDAY INTO WEDNESDAY... .A STORM SYSTEM WILL RAPIDLY STRENGTHEN TONIGHT INTO TUESDAY ACROSS THE UPPER MIDNIGHT. THE RAPID STRENGTHENING OF THE STORM SYSTEM WILL RESULT IN VERY HIGH WINDS ACROSS THE AREA TUESDAY AND POSSIBLY INTO WEDNESDAY. SUSTAINED WINDS OF 30 TO 40 MPH WITH GUSTS GREATER THAN 50 MPH ARE LIKELY. WIND SPEEDS ARE EXPECTED TO DECREASE TUESDAY NIGHT...THEN INCREASE AGAIN ON WEDNESDAY.
 
RickH said:
URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE QUAD CITIES IA IL 332 PM CDT MON OCT 25 2010 ...HIGH WINDS TUESDAY INTO WEDNESDAY... .A STORM SYSTEM WILL RAPIDLY STRENGTHEN TONIGHT INTO TUESDAY ACROSS THE UPPER MIDNIGHT. THE RAPID STRENGTHENING OF THE STORM SYSTEM WILL RESULT IN VERY HIGH WINDS ACROSS THE AREA TUESDAY AND POSSIBLY INTO WEDNESDAY. SUSTAINED WINDS OF 30 TO 40 MPH WITH GUSTS GREATER THAN 50 MPH ARE LIKELY. WIND SPEEDS ARE EXPECTED TO DECREASE TUESDAY NIGHT...THEN INCREASE AGAIN ON WEDNESDAY.
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Just imagine if this thing came across 30-45 days later.. Yuck! They would be hauling snow to the river before CHristmas!
 
I've been watching that low since it was well off the coast of the Pacific NW. It's been (and continues to be) quite a gem. They're forecasting 60mph winds just west of Cleveland tomorrow, 50mph in the Cleveland area.
 
RickH said:
URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE QUAD CITIES IA IL 332 PM CDT MON OCT 25 2010 ...HIGH WINDS TUESDAY INTO WEDNESDAY... .A STORM SYSTEM WILL RAPIDLY STRENGTHEN TONIGHT INTO TUESDAY ACROSS THE UPPER MIDNIGHT. THE RAPID STRENGTHENING OF THE STORM SYSTEM WILL RESULT IN VERY HIGH WINDS ACROSS THE AREA TUESDAY AND POSSIBLY INTO WEDNESDAY. SUSTAINED WINDS OF 30 TO 40 MPH WITH GUSTS GREATER THAN 50 MPH ARE LIKELY. WIND SPEEDS ARE EXPECTED TO DECREASE TUESDAY NIGHT...THEN INCREASE AGAIN ON WEDNESDAY.
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Jeez, someone at the NWS is getting so excited they can't even type the right Mid-word.
 
ScottM said:
The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down
Of the big lake they call Gitche Gumee
Superior, they say, never gives up her dead
When the gales of November come early.
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Here's the bell they recovered from the Edmund Fitzgerald. It's in the Great Lakes Shipwreck Museum in Whitefish Point, MI if anyone is interested. I came upon it wandering around amusing myself.

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just the typical 30-40 mph wind here. gust up to 50 out in western kansas. another day at the office
 
flyingcheesehead said:
Whoo-ee... Gonna be a good one:

KMSN 251740Z 2518/2618 19009G16KT P6SM FEW025 OVC250
TEMPO 2518/2519 BKN025
FM260000 14009KT P6SM SCT150 OVC250
FM260300 14014G24KT 6SM BR VCSH SCT015 BKN035
FM260600 15019G30KT 4SM -SHRA BR BKN025CB
FM261100 18022G38KT 3SM SHRA BR SCT005 BKN015CB
TEMPO 2612/2616 1SM +TSRA BR BKN005 OVC020CB
FM261600 22025G43KT P6SM BKN035

KMKE 251740Z 2518/2624 21010G17KT P6SM FEW025 OVC250
FM260000 15010KT P6SM SCT150 OVC250
FM260400 15017G26KT 6SM BR VCSH SCT015 BKN035
FM260700 17020G32KT 4SM -SHRA BR BKN025CB
FM261200 18025G40KT 3SM SHRA BR SCT005 BKN015CB
TEMPO 2613/2617 1SM +TSRA BR BKN005 OVC020CB
FM261700 23027G45KT P6SM BKN035
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KMSN 252320Z 2600/2624 14009KT P6SM BKN100
FM260400 14014G24KT 6SM BR VCSH SCT015 BKN035
FM260600 15019G29KT 4SM -SHRA BR BKN025CB
FM261100 18022G35KT 3SM SHRA BR SCT005 BKN015CB
TEMPO 2612/2616 1SM +TSRA BR BKN005 OVC020CB
FM261600 22025G43KT P6SM BKN035

KMKE 252320Z 2600/2706 14010KT P6SM BKN100
FM260500 15017G26KT 6SM BR VCSH SCT015 BKN035
FM260700 17020G32KT 4SM -SHRA BR BKN025CB
FM261200 18025G40KT 3SM SHRA BR SCT005 BKN015CB
TEMPO 2613/2617 1SM +TSRA BR BKN005 OVC020CB
FM261700 23027G45KT P6SM BKN035
FM270000 23024G35KT P6SM SCT050
 
John Baker said:
It is obvious that the Canadians have developed a method of controlling the weather, and are now trying to destroy us with its power. We must start massing our troops along the border immediately.

John
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We'd only have to invade 100 miles inland to capture most of their population and economic centers...
 
vontresc said:
Well I was planning on flying our new diamond some more tomorrow, but decided to check the weather after hearing that we were supposed to have major winds tomorrow.

Looking at the progs I noticed that there was a massive Low pressure system developing over western Ontario.

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I haven't seen such a large low in a long time, and I was wondering how these things develop? BTW 961 millibar is equal to 28.38" of Hg
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:idea::idea:Simple, Canada sucks.:cornut:
 
flyingcheesehead said:
KMSN 252320Z 2600/2624 14009KT P6SM BKN100
FM260400 14014G24KT 6SM BR VCSH SCT015 BKN035
FM260600 15019G29KT 4SM -SHRA BR BKN025CB
FM261100 18022G35KT 3SM SHRA BR SCT005 BKN015CB
TEMPO 2612/2616 1SM +TSRA BR BKN005 OVC020CB
FM261600 22025G43KT P6SM BKN035

KMKE 252320Z 2600/2706 14010KT P6SM BKN100
FM260500 15017G26KT 6SM BR VCSH SCT015 BKN035
FM260700 17020G32KT 4SM -SHRA BR BKN025CB
FM261200 18025G40KT 3SM SHRA BR SCT005 BKN015CB
TEMPO 2613/2617 1SM +TSRA BR BKN005 OVC020CB
FM261700 23027G45KT P6SM BKN035
FM270000 23024G35KT P6SM SCT050
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TAF CHICAGO O'HARE , IL
KORD 261000Z 2610/2712 17022G32KT P6SM VCSH BKN025 OVC035CB
FM261200 18022G32KT 6SM SHRA BKN025 OVC035CB
FM261300 23035G45KT 2SM +TSRA SCT012 OVC020CB
FM261330 23025G35KT 6SM SHRA SCT020 OVC035CB
FM261500 23025G40KT P6SM BKN035
FM261800 23030G45KT P6SM SCT040
FM270000 22020G30KT P6SM FEW040=

ORD currently reporting winds 18029G39. TS to southwest of us, moving NE at 70 mph.

Gonna love this morning's commute.....
 
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