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Discussion in 'Flight Following' started by ktup-flyer, Nov 7, 2019.
Someone posted this on reddit
better lucky than good....
I was going to post the exact same thing!
Same title right?
Hey, pitot heat worked!
That is more ice than I would feel comfortable with...
The only time I would want to see that much ice ,is on a drink.
At least the seat fabric looks like it should wipe clean.
The pilot needs to chip off some of that into a glass and top it off with some nice Scotch.....a whole bunch of it. Wow!!
I have done that a couple times...
Actually, I like flying in ice. For some reason it always gets hot in the plane because I really start sweating....
That’s not even a big deal, I’ve flown with 3x as much ice.........
That happened to me once in a 172. It was a significant emotional event. Luckily I survived the experience and learned a valuable lesson.
Damn! Also, this also demonstrates, which is potentially a bad side effect of posting something like this, that when they tell you that even a sandpaper thick layer of ice or frost can affect the airfoil, at least planes like the SkyHawk with forgiving wings tend to be quite tolerant to even large amounts of ice
Ice freaks me out. Even with FIKI
No. Thank. You.
Now let the guessing begin as to what the stall speed was.
Lower than what they landed at.
By the way, that’s not “just” ice. That was freezing drizzle or freezing rain. FIKI airplanes aren’t even certified for that.
Was picture taken with pride?? If so I’m sure we will read about them in the future. Scary.
Was the airplane really flying, or left on the ramp in a recent storm?
"Ice Ice Baby"? Here's my Fly Baby, visiting another airport on an icy day.
In my event it was full throttle just to maintain GS on the ILS. In the landing phase the plane just stopped flying at ~3-4 feet in the round out at 80ish knots indicated with no warning or buffet. I did not take the time to do the math and determine how much the critical aoa was reduced but it was dang sure not flying like a normal 172.
Just looking at the strut I’m guessing actual flight. And thanks but no thanks on that!
I've had that much ice on the jeep windshield parked outside twice in the last week or 2 here... but jeeps don't fly well, anyway ...
It has the curling like effect that you see in the ice accumulation vids. It looks pretty real to me. That kind can pack on fast in the right conditions.
Saw that on Reddit this morning. The poster deleted some of his comments but some can be found here.
Yeah, hopefully nobody here will be saying "Frost? I've seen (pictures of) worse. Let's launch!".
The reddit thread is a wild ride.
Apparently he tail stalled it from about 10’ on landing, so he quite possibly bent the firewall. My “friend” has never had a 182 in ice, but has seen a lot more ice on a 207 and it did not tail stall. He probably came in with flaps.
Rookie move, along with putting picture on the internet bragging about it.
Yep. I would've landed, kissed the ground, and gone straight to the bar.
"Would love to see what this guy defines light chop as"
ATC: Did you pick up any ice in the descent?
Pilot: Just a trace of light rime
I'm not often rendered speechless.
Looks like this guy made 2 mistakes. Flying into ice and posting it on the internet. He's lucky to walk away from either.
what the heck approach speed would you fly to the runway? Fast? or Faster!!
I can't imagine what stall speed would have been.
I thank the pilot for posting his icing experience pictures. There is a public benefit to witnessing this in understanding the effects of icing, especially as we move into icing season.
Pilots make mistakes. I have respect for those who post what happened to them as a learning experience. I THINK MORE OF THEM for sharing with gratitude.
As the pilot deleted some of his early online entries it’s difficult to know his point of you. From what others said it sounds like it was a lot more bragging than learning.
Slower than what he landed at...
We’ve all done dumb stuff, maybe not this dumb, but most of us have the sense not to post it for the world to see!!
Full power and take everything you can get! I know some of the old freight dogs around here talk about flying with tons of ice, and getting into situations that required full power just to clear the fence. The guys that used to fly night freight in the Twin Beeches and DC-3s in the upper midwest decades ago were a different type.
Test pilot territory.
People on reddit are being pretty harsh, but hey, it's the internet. Reports - the guy flew 25 miles in freezing fog, about 10 minutes. yes, he is lucky to be alive.
I'm curious what they would do if they realized they're stuck with freezing fog over the area and knowing you need to land. Thinking I would been calling flight services to find out where the temps were the highest. But under stress, I don't know that any of us can know how we're going to react unless we've been there. An hour of flying time give or take, ice all around. You're landing somewhere soon.
When I hear “fog”, I think something that’s too low to spend 10 minutes in...it’d be interesting to see the METARs & TAFs.
He should've ceramic coated the airplane. No water, no ice