How to solve the US pilot shortage

Discussion in 'Flight Following' started by FPK1, May 30, 2022.

  1. Velocity173

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  2. Jeff767

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    Delta flight attendants are the only ones payed during boarding. Block hour pay is standard across the industry for both pilots and flight attendants. What is not mentioned is the rates reflect that method of pay and there are duty rigs to insure minimum pay per day and hours worked.
     
  3. E.W.

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    Most all industries have unending worker shortages and not because of the recent lock-downs. For example there is a perpetual shortage of doctors and dermatologists. It's simply always caused by the government reducing the number of people who are permitted to practice in that field. If you look at the constant year-over-year declines in the number of private pilots it's clear that there will be an incessant shortage at all the higher levels as well.
     
  4. OneCharlieTango

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    10% inflation will cure the pilot shortage by killing demand, at least temporarily.

    Of course, it will also slaughter the supply pipeline, leading to worse shortages in the future. . . . .
     
  5. EdFred

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    False. Malpractice insurance costs are causing a great number to bail.

    More ATPs than ever. Explain that, genius.
     
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    More jobs, more ATPs.

    But that does not mean that there are enough of them.
     
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    He said the government was reducing the number of ATPs through legislation - or some other means. That's not the case. Not as a raw number, and not as a percentage of the population.

    From 1990 ==> 2020 there was a 28% increase in the US population.
    From 1990 ==> 2020 there was a 53% increase in ATPs.

    So not only are there more ATPs as a raw number, but also as a percentage of the population.

    Dude is talking out of his butthole and just making crap up.
     
  8. dmspilot

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    First officers need ATP certificates now and they didn't in 1990. Rest rules are more strict. So more ATPs are needed for the same number of flights. Not a reduction of ATPs but it is a reduction in the ATP to job opening ratio.
     
  9. Larry in TN

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    I suspect that, under today's rules, most new ATPs earn their ATP when they take their first new-hire type ride with a regional airline. This saves the pilot a lot of money since the regional airlines are paying for the newly required (early 2010s?) training and sim time. Most of those new ATPs are already employed by airlines.
     
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